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Pentax K-3 II, Tamron 70mm-200mm (105mm-300mm), Shanny SN600FGZ (Use of HSS)
Lens: Tamron 70mm-200mm (105mm-300mm) Camera: K-3 II (Silver Edition) Photo Location: Home 
Posted By: Lmcfarrin, 04-21-2017, 07:09 PM

Pentax K-3 II, Tamron 70mm-200mm (105mm-300mm), Shanny SN600FGZ (Use of High Speed Flash

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04-22-2017, 04:08 PM   #2
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You/ve scored quite a bit of noise in these shots, do you use a PP program with noise reducing capacity in it?
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Thanks for the evaluation. First, each photo has approximately 85% of the original cropped away. Secondly, some of the grain in the photos are produced (from my visual evaluation in camera) by my lens, the additional weird grain is produced in post processing using smart phone camera app Snapseed. I will be acquiring Lightroom or similar soon. My accomplished goal was to apply the photographic technique to capture these shots. Once I figured it out I was able to catch the birds almost at will. I acquired most of the shots within a 15 to 30 minute timespan, but remained in position for several hours before I figured it out. Lastly, I'm using an additional Shanny flash. The gist of the previously mentioned, if I can get these type of shots in my back yard with an APS-C camera, 2.8 lens, and relatively higher iso (4000) than desired, I can produce this type of photo like the pros given better equipment and software..... Hummingbird I'm coming for you

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QuoteOriginally posted by Lmcfarrin Quote
Pentax K-3 II, Tamron 70mm-200mm (105mm-300mm), Shanny SN600FGZ (Use of High Speed Flash
...... couple more shots from same day.

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K-3 II Silver Edition, Tamron 70mm-200mm (105mm-300mm) F2.8, Shanny Flash (HSS)

... I've been preparing for hummingbird. It came today, caught me off guard, and I did not have camera set optimally to get photos of my ultimate satisfaction - hummingbird won round 1.
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You culd try without flash on Av f/8 higher iso 800 or 1000 ....

starling small bird far away huge crop



a litttle bigger dove at ISO 1600


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Your photos are awesome. Thanks for the guidance. However, the difference is the amount of natural light your shots have. I'm shooting in a shaded area or sun is in front of me. Also, the wing flap speeds of other birds are much much slower than a hummingbird. Without flash, you would need to shutter at1/4000 or higher to freeze wings of hummingbird, but the photo would be under exposed due to not enough light. So to have the combination of proper exposure and clarity, you have to add light (flash) for a hummingbird - otherwise the wings appear blurred.

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I see a lot of sunny places(move the feeder or you on better spot) in your photos( and even in shade )try to get(catch) light from sidde(left or right).As you can se you can easy achive 1/8000 in cloudy weather and 1/5000 suny
On first series you have too higher ISO and flash (go 100,200 o4 400) and last it is still 1000 wich i think is too much.You can fix exposure and lighting in PP.There'S lots of free software ....

Here is one sample withouth flash:
Photography Kameko Walker also pentaxanian

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I think you're off to a good start, and can experiment with settings and techniques. We rarely see chipping sparrows on feeders here, but often beneath them.

And for the hummingbirds, you don't need to use that red stuff. A 20% by volume sugar solution is all you need (1part sugar, 4parts water). Change it at least every other day in the summer and use some white vinegar to rinse the feeder between each filling to keep the mold and other stuff from growing (of course rinse well after). Between that and flowers you should have a good spot for them, they'll return each year.
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Thank you both for the insights and will apply advice. Also, I'm aware of the lighting disadvantages I'm currently and purposely experiencing. Best case lighting scenario "takes care of itself." However in this case and present time by working harder and not smarter is forcing me to identify the limits of my technique, equipment, software, and habits of the birds. In other words, I'm learning more by failing than winning. If I take those same shots, same location, same accessories and current technique with a Sony A7R II we'd be having a different discussion. As stated, I am going to take the advice given, and purchase a satisfactory pp program. HSS to my understanding is to defeat unfavorable lighting conditions, that's my mission for this use of flash.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lmcfarrin Quote
with a Sony A7R II we'd be having a different discussion.
He,he, and 500 mm also would not hurt !

You're doing pretty well.
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He,he, and 500 mm also would not hurt !

You're doing pretty well.
Thank you Eva - especially for taking your time and interest to offer improvements. I'll be experimenting with some of your tips this weekend.
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