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Today was a very sad and damp Anzac Day. It's the main day of remembrance in Australia and New Zealand for military sacrifice, and originated in the hope that the loss of so many lives in Gallipoli in WW1 would never be forgotten. It has evolved into a commemoration for all those who served in the military in all conflicts from the Boer War to today.

Anzac Memories by RobGeraghty, on Flickr

surfar · 04-26-2017, 03:45 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aslyfox

War is hell

Could get worse soon....those big weapons just get bigger and meaner.

I hope the present tensions reduce.

RobG · 04-26-2017, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

not to get too political but the waste of life, both military and civilian, in war knows no nationality
we must not lose sight of that fact

Anzac Day is specifically about those Australians who fought for their country. In WW1, fewer civilians died than military personnel. Still a horrendous number. In WW2, the civilian casualties were double the military. In more recent conflicts, it's hard to say. As has already been stated, war is a terrible thing in general, not simply for those at the front line.

---------- Post added 26-04-17 at 09:14 PM ----------

Originally posted by surfar

I hope the present tensions reduce.

Absolutely.

**aslyfox** · 04-26-2017, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by RobG

Anzac Day is specifically about those Australians who fought for their country. In WW1, fewer civilians died than military personnel. Still a horrendous number. In WW2, the civilian casualties were double the military. In more recent conflicts, it's hard to say. As has already been stated, war is a terrible thing in general, not simply for those at the front line.

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Australia and New Zealand Army Corps isn't it ??

RobG · 04-26-2017, 04:31 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Aslyfox

Australia and New Zealand troops ??

Yes, ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) day originated from the commemoration of Australian and New Zealand troops in a disastrous attempt to land at Gallipoli in Turkey. Australia has an ANZAC day, and so does New Zealand. ANZAC Day in Australia today is primarily about Australians who fought for their country in all conflicts, not simply the original ANZACs who have passed on. Of course the day is also about the cooperation of Australian and New Zealand troops. I'm not belittling anything to do with the relationship between Australia and New Zealand to state the fact that ANZAC day today is about a lot more than that original failed campaign.

**aslyfox** · 04-26-2017, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by RobG

Yes, ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) day originated from the commemoration of Australian and New Zealand troops in a disastrous attempt to land at Gallipoli in Turkey. Australia has an ANZAC day, and so does New Zealand. ANZAC Day in Australia today is primarily about Australians who fought for their country in all conflicts, not simply the original ANZACs who have passed on. Of course the day is also about the cooperation of Australian and New Zealand troops. I'm not belittling anything to do with the relationship between Australia and New Zealand to state the fact that ANZAC day today is about a lot more than that original failed campaign.

of course not

and as one who is not knowledgeable about either country thanks for giving us the information

RobG · 04-26-2017, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

and as one who is not knowledgeable about either country thanks for giving us the information

No worries!

The similar public holiday in the USA is probably Veteran's Day.

When I checked the Australian War Memorial's list of casualties, the number of conflicts in which Australians served is higher than I thought.
Deaths as a result of service with Australian units | Australian War Memorial
Military history of Australia - Wikipedia

The military history of New Zealand is similarly complex for a small population:
Military history of New Zealand - Wikipedia

**aslyfox** · 04-26-2017, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by RobG

No worries!

The similar public holiday in the USA is probably Veteran's Day. . . .

which grew from the Armistice Day holiday remembering the Armistice ending the combat in World War I and honoring those who died in the War

the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month

to honoring all veterans as well as honoring all who have died in the wars involving the US

Veterans Day - Holidays - HISTORY.com

**Kerrowdown** · 04-26-2017, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by RobG

Lest we forget

A timely reminder, to us all, to pay our respects.

sandbasser · 04-26-2017, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

A timely reminder, to us all, to pay our respects.

My mother emigrated from Australia to US after WW2...

She always remembered Anzac Day, everybody in her generation knew, or was related to someone who sacrificed their all.

**Sailor** · 04-26-2017, 02:18 PM

Truly a first-class photo, Rob. Congrats on one terrific photo.

Jer

RobG · 04-26-2017, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Aslyfox

which grew from the Armistice Day holiday remembering the Armistice ending the combat in World War I and honoring those who died in the War
the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month
to honoring all veterans as well as honoring all who have died in the wars involving the US

Yes, this is named as "Remembrance Day" in many countries. In certain places in Australia, a minute's silence is held at the 11th hour on November the eleventh.

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

A timely reminder, to us all, to pay our respects.

Thanks!

Originally posted by sandbasser

My mother emigrated from Australia to US after WW2... She always remembered Anzac Day, everybody in her generation knew, or was related to someone who sacrificed their all.

Yes, it's hard for those of us who weren't involved in that way to imagine.

Originally posted by Sailor

Truly a first-class photo, Rob. Congrats on one terrific photo.

Thanks Jer! The time was well spent.

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04-26-2017, 04:18 AM	#18
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by RobG Anzac Day is specifically about those Australians who fought for their country. In WW1, fewer civilians died than military personnel. Still a horrendous number. In WW2, the civilian casualties were double the military. In more recent conflicts, it's hard to say. As has already been stated, war is a terrible thing in general, not simply for those at the front line. " Australia and New Zealand Army Corps isn't it ?? Last edited by aslyfox; 04-26-2017 at 04:28 AM.

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04-26-2017, 03:45 AM - 1 Like	#16
surfar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: mid nth coast,nsw Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,141	Originally posted by Aslyfox War is hell Could get worse soon....those big weapons just get bigger and meaner. I hope the present tensions reduce.

04-26-2017, 04:12 AM	#17
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,891 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aslyfox not to get too political but the waste of life, both military and civilian, in war knows no nationality we must not lose sight of that fact Anzac Day is specifically about those Australians who fought for their country. In WW1, fewer civilians died than military personnel. Still a horrendous number. In WW2, the civilian casualties were double the military. In more recent conflicts, it's hard to say. As has already been stated, war is a terrible thing in general, not simply for those at the front line. ---------- Post added 26-04-17 at 09:14 PM ---------- Originally posted by surfar I hope the present tensions reduce. Absolutely.

04-26-2017, 04:31 AM - 1 Like	#19
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,891 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aslyfox Australia and New Zealand troops ?? Yes, ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) day originated from the commemoration of Australian and New Zealand troops in a disastrous attempt to land at Gallipoli in Turkey. Australia has an ANZAC day, and so does New Zealand. ANZAC Day in Australia today is primarily about Australians who fought for their country in all conflicts, not simply the original ANZACs who have passed on. Of course the day is also about the cooperation of Australian and New Zealand troops. I'm not belittling anything to do with the relationship between Australia and New Zealand to state the fact that ANZAC day today is about a lot more than that original failed campaign.

04-26-2017, 04:43 AM	#20
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by RobG Yes, ANZAC (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) day originated from the commemoration of Australian and New Zealand troops in a disastrous attempt to land at Gallipoli in Turkey. Australia has an ANZAC day, and so does New Zealand. ANZAC Day in Australia today is primarily about Australians who fought for their country in all conflicts, not simply the original ANZACs who have passed on. Of course the day is also about the cooperation of Australian and New Zealand troops. I'm not belittling anything to do with the relationship between Australia and New Zealand to state the fact that ANZAC day today is about a lot more than that original failed campaign. of course not and as one who is not knowledgeable about either country thanks for giving us the information

04-26-2017, 05:12 AM	#21
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,891 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aslyfox and as one who is not knowledgeable about either country thanks for giving us the information No worries! The similar public holiday in the USA is probably Veteran's Day. When I checked the Australian War Memorial's list of casualties, the number of conflicts in which Australians served is higher than I thought. Deaths as a result of service with Australian units \| Australian War Memorial Military history of Australia - Wikipedia The military history of New Zealand is similarly complex for a small population: Military history of New Zealand - Wikipedia

04-26-2017, 07:35 AM	#22
aslyfox Seeker of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Topeka, Kansas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 24,581	Originally posted by RobG No worries! The similar public holiday in the USA is probably Veteran's Day. . . . which grew from the Armistice Day holiday remembering the Armistice ending the combat in World War I and honoring those who died in the War the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month to honoring all veterans as well as honoring all who have died in the wars involving the US Veterans Day - Holidays - HISTORY.com

04-26-2017, 12:36 PM	#23
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,819	Originally posted by RobG Lest we forget A timely reminder, to us all, to pay our respects.

04-26-2017, 12:42 PM	#24
sandbasser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Riverside, CA USA Posts: 143	Originally posted by Kerrowdown A timely reminder, to us all, to pay our respects. My mother emigrated from Australia to US after WW2... She always remembered Anzac Day, everybody in her generation knew, or was related to someone who sacrificed their all.

04-26-2017, 02:18 PM	#25
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,205	Truly a first-class photo, Rob. Congrats on one terrific photo. Jer

04-26-2017, 04:14 PM	#26
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,891 Original Poster	Originally posted by Aslyfox which grew from the Armistice Day holiday remembering the Armistice ending the combat in World War I and honoring those who died in the War the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month to honoring all veterans as well as honoring all who have died in the wars involving the US Yes, this is named as "Remembrance Day" in many countries. In certain places in Australia, a minute's silence is held at the 11th hour on November the eleventh. Originally posted by Kerrowdown A timely reminder, to us all, to pay our respects. Thanks! Originally posted by sandbasser My mother emigrated from Australia to US after WW2... She always remembered Anzac Day, everybody in her generation knew, or was related to someone who sacrificed their all. Yes, it's hard for those of us who weren't involved in that way to imagine. Originally posted by Sailor Truly a first-class photo, Rob. Congrats on one terrific photo. Thanks Jer! The time was well spent.