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Superb Fairy-wren (F)
Lens: DA!300 Camera: K3 Photo Location: Inverloch, Vic, Australia ISO: 200 Shutter Speed: 1/1500s Aperture: F4 
Posted By: alfa75ts, 08-31-2018, 02:41 PM

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Excellent shot of this little bird!

Thanks for sharing
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I think he's telling you off.
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I think he's telling you off.
It's a She. (F)

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Lovely.

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It's a She. (F)
Then she's giving you the come-hither. You must've put on quite a show for her
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It's a She. (F)
Whoops, sorry. I think she's telling you off.
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Nice one!
interesting coloration on the face!
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Very nice. It may be a "she" or it could be a subordinate "he". But an excellent shot.

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I think he's telling you off.
Yes, I do believe you are right!
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Great this photo and well done thank you. Cheers
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Sunning posture, detail and isolation alfa75ts...well done.
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It may be a "she" or it could be a subordinate "he"
This is a difficult issue. I was of the firm opinion that orange around the eye and an orange beak meant Female. Full stop, no if's or buts.

So I spent some hours trawling the net. I could find no solid scientifically proven facts just statements without proof (often conflicting).

I could find no photographs of blatantly "juvenile" birds.

So I checked my own shots.

I have shots of birds with black beaks, blue tails but no orange around the eye that otherwise have "Female" colouring which I have always thought to be juvenile males:

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Including this "young" looking bird:

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Which is seen in the company of a "Female", they behave like Mother and Child:

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Then there was this shot:

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I saw the orange around the eye and thought "Female". A second later my brain said "Black beak - Blue tail".

Then I saw the tiny light patch above the beak:

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So now I know that young males can have orange around the eyes which eventually fades.

But what I still don't know is whether males have black beaks and blue tails from the time they hatch of if they come later or if all males start life with orange around the eyes.

I guess I'm going to be spending more time in the next few months photographing these Superb birds.
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QuoteOriginally posted by alfa75ts Quote
I saw the orange around the eye and thought "Female". A second later my brain said "Black beak - Blue tail".
Thanks for all that additional info (and the opportunity to learn something). Those are all great pics. The colour of the beak may be the best identifier. Obviously changing feather colour (if a male becomes dominant) is a matter of moulting. Even so, although I thought beak colour would be more "permanent", apparently it can change with breeding season in some birds. I must pay more attention to the wrens in the garden here.
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I must pay more attention to the wrens in the garden here.
Sounds like you have a better chance than me to figure out whats going on, I have to get the right weather, drive to the park, walk to the wrens, ignore the:

Raptors
Frogmouths
Pardalotes
Ducks
Foxes
Rabbits
Thistles
Etc Etc Etc.
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ignore the:
etc etc


Actually, my wife and I were coming in from our afternoon walk last week and there was a feral cat sitting in the garden staring hard into the May bushes which the wrens like so much. It was obvious what it had on its mind. Anyway, it was a young cat and it did not get older. The wrens can feed in peace. They nest and raise families here in the yard. (The cat was definitely feral. We live 40km from town.)
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