Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version 12 Likes Search this Thread
5 Likes  #1
The forgotton atomic bomb
Lens: Tamron 17-50 f2.8 Camera: K3 Photo Location: Nagasaki, Japan ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 1/60s Aperture: F5.6 
Posted By: RobG, 06-05-2019, 03:54 AM

This structure is one of the few things which survived close to the hypocentre of the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki. The Torii marks the entrance of the Sanno shrine, further up the hillside. The gate was about 750 metres from the hypocentre.


The One-legged Gate
by RobGeraghty, on Flickr

These two Camphor trees at the entrance of Sanno shrine in Nagasaki were nearly killed by the atomic bomb, which exploded less than 800 metres from this point. The inset at the bottom left shows the trees after the bomb. However,
the trees survived and regrew.


Camphor Survivors
by RobGeraghty, on Flickr

The Nagasaki hypocentre cenotaph is the point on the ground below where the atomic bomb detonated at a height of about 500 metres. The brick column on the right is a remnant of the original Urakami Cathedral. The cathedral was the pride of the descendants of the Hidden Christians, who were brutally suppressed during the Edo period.


Hypocentre
by RobGeraghty, on Flickr

Last edited by Blue; 06-06-2019 at 10:51 AM. Reason: comment leading to political/religious discussion
Views: 1,082
06-05-2019, 04:00 AM   #2
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
RobA_Oz's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 8,209
Nice work, Rob. My late father-in-law was a British PoW and forced labourer in the copper mills near Nagasaki. He certainly never forgot seeing the bomb go off.
06-05-2019, 04:14 AM   #3
Otis Memorial Pentaxian
RobG's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Canberra
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 8,905
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by RobA_Oz Quote
Nice work, Rob. My late father-in-law was a British PoW and forced labourer in the copper mills near Nagasaki. He certainly never forgot seeing the bomb go off.
I'm sure he didn't! I can't help wondering how many POWs became statistics in the bombings of Japan. I just found out that 12 Americans died when Hiroshima was bombed, but I'm sure that other POWs would have died when the other cities were bombed and firestormed. Those people became an uncounted cost of ending the war.

One Japanese man probably qualified as the world's unluckiest (and somehow luckiest) person. Tsutomu Yamaguchi was in Hiroshima when it was bombed, and made his way to Nagasaki just in time for it to be bombed as well - yet survived both. He died in 2010 of stomach cancer, having already survived leukemia and other ailments caused by the radiation.

While many people remember Nagasaki, most people only remember the attack on Hiroshima. While 140,000 people died in 1945 in Hiroshima, 70,000 died in Nagasaki. The hilly terrain in Nagasaki meant that the bomb affected a smaller area than it had in Hiroshima. In either case, the death tolls are horrific, and people are suffering to this day with diseases like cancer induced by the radiation.

Last edited by RobG; 06-05-2019 at 04:21 AM.
06-05-2019, 06:59 AM - 1 Like   #4
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
Sailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Coastal Texas
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 26,203
Great series, Rob and excellent commentary on the photos.

Jer

06-05-2019, 07:03 AM - 1 Like   #5
Seeker of Knowledge
Loyal Site Supporter
aslyfox's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Topeka, Kansas
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 24,583
very nice

well done
06-05-2019, 08:39 AM - 2 Likes   #6
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 4,834
@RobG, thanks for sharing the photos.

@Normhead, the Battle of Okinawa immediately preceded the 2 atomic bombings. Nearly 150,000 civilians died at Okinawa. A land invasion of the main Japanese islands might have been worse than atomic bombs. A blockade of the islands, rather than invasion, would have also been horrific because civilians run out of food before the army does.
06-05-2019, 08:49 PM   #7
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter




Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: In the Florida swamps
Posts: 772
QuoteOriginally posted by RobG Quote
This structure is one of the few things which survived close to the hypocentre of the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki. The Torii marks the entrance of the Sanno shrine, further up the hillside. The gate was about 750 metres from the hypocentre.


The One-legged Gate
by RobGeraghty, on Flickr

These two Camphor trees at the entrance of Sanno shrine in Nagasaki were nearly killed by the atomic bomb, which exploded less than 800 metres from this point. The inset at the bottom left shows the trees after the bomb. However,
the trees survived and regrew.


Camphor Survivors
by RobGeraghty, on Flickr

The Nagasaki hypocentre cenotaph is the point on the ground below where the atomic bomb detonated at a height of about 500 metres. The brick column on the right is a remnant of the original Urakami Cathedral. The cathedral was the pride of the descendants of the Hidden Christians, who were brutally suppressed during the Edo period.


Hypocentre
by RobGeraghty, on Flickr
Disregarding anyone's lack of knowledge concerning the Geneva Convention, and (equally) obvious lack of knowledge concerning combatants/ vs "defenseless civilian" population, well done. The first and second shots are very powerful images.


Last edited by Blue; 06-06-2019 at 10:58 AM. Reason: edited religious comment in quoted text
06-06-2019, 12:29 AM - 1 Like   #8
Site Supporter
Site Supporter




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,048
Thank you for posting these photos of the forgotten city which seems to have been rebuilt and reoccupied rather quickly in comparison to the accident at Fukushima where people are still not allowed to return to their homes. I can't help wondering how much radiation was/is still around the bombed cities today.
06-06-2019, 04:43 AM   #9
Otis Memorial Pentaxian
RobG's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Canberra
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 8,905
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by PenPusher Quote
Thank you for posting these photos of the forgotten city which seems to have been rebuilt and reoccupied rather quickly in comparison to the accident at Fukushima where people are still not allowed to return to their homes. I can't help wondering how much radiation was/is still around the bombed cities today.
At the time when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, there was very little understanding of radiation and therefore little fear of it. You couldn't see it, so you didn't think about it. Ironically because people now know more about it, not being able to see it increases the fear. The nature of the contamination is different. A lot of the material released by the Daiichi accident was Iodine, which binds to the thyroid, increasing the risk of thyroid cancer. Most of the radiation from the atomic bombs was at the time of the explosions as heat, x-rays, gamma rays and neutrons. I'll have to check and see if it's easy to find out what the current radiation levels are like in the bombed cities.

According to Hiroshima city, current radiation levels are close to normal background levels.

http://www.city.hiroshima.lg.jp/www/contents/1319178283612/index.html

Last edited by RobG; 06-06-2019 at 04:59 AM.
06-06-2019, 08:31 AM   #10
Moderator
Man With A Camera
Loyal Site Supporter
Racer X 69's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 28,076
QuoteOriginally posted by PenPusher Quote
Thank you for posting these photos of the forgotten city which seems to have been rebuilt and reoccupied rather quickly in comparison to the accident at Fukushima where people are still not allowed to return to their homes. I can't help wondering how much radiation was/is still around the bombed cities today.
Well it has been 74 years since Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

How long has it been since Fukushima? Eight years? That place will be unusable for a long time to come.
06-06-2019, 10:16 AM   #11
Seeker of Knowledge
Loyal Site Supporter
aslyfox's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Topeka, Kansas
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 24,583
QuoteOriginally posted by Racer X 69 Quote
Well it has been 74 years since Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

How long has it been since Fukushima? Eight years? That place will be unusable for a long time to come.
don't forget Chernobyl

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/safety-...-accident.aspx

just got done watching this dramatization:

Chernobyl (TV Mini-Series 2019) - IMDb
06-06-2019, 10:53 AM - 1 Like   #12
Moderator
Man With A Camera
Loyal Site Supporter
Racer X 69's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: The Great Pacific Northwet, in the Land Between Canada and Mexico
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 28,076
Let's keep in mind the taboo subjects here at Pentax Forums, and try not to stray into areas of discussion that would be outside allowable conversation. Some cleanup has been done, and any other comments on certain subjects should be avoided.

Thank you everyone!
Racer
06-11-2019, 01:55 AM - 1 Like   #13
Inactive Account




Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 4,460
Great series!
06-11-2019, 02:54 AM   #14
Otis Memorial Pentaxian
RobG's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Canberra
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 8,905
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by Janse Quote
Great series!
Thanks Janse! I suppose I should post at least one photo of the Peace Park, but I felt that those sites were more evocative. I saw groups of school kids praying at the Peace Park. I would have liked to ask them what the place meant to them. I suspect that it doesn't mean a lot to young Japanese people. They are much more focussed on now, which is fine in a way, but it's also educational to look back at the past now and then.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
bomb, bombs, camera, cathedral, cities, civilians, convention, descendants, flickr, metres, nagasaki, photo, radiation, target, trees, victims, war

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
People Running Bomb Kerrowdown Post Your Photos! 2 09-09-2018 02:32 PM
Atomic power by Pentax? pathdoc Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 10 07-11-2017 03:38 AM
Night Atomic Greenhouse bobbotron Post Your Photos! 5 04-27-2017 06:34 PM
Misc Atomic Ray Gun Sailor Post Your Photos! 7 04-05-2011 05:17 PM
The Bomb! Trawlerman Post Your Photos! 4 02-15-2007 03:04 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:10 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top