Machinery What a strange iPhone glitch!

What a strange iPhone glitch! · 06:53 AM

Iso is actually 32. Time was 1/397th seconds.

Take a look in the wheel well. There’s been zero manipulation of this image by me, but it appears the iPhone attempted to make sense of the flare and did a very poor job of it. Make sure to click through to Flickr and zoom in.

Weird iPhone processing error by -vanya_42nd-

5ks · 12-03-2021, 07:11 AM

Quite interesting, yes. All extra effects are not necessarily of a natural kind, nor welcome.

**ProfessorBuzz** · 12-03-2021, 10:26 AM

The wonders of computational photography... it's amazing what can be done with on-device software image processing these days.

**angkymac** · 12-03-2021, 10:31 AM

"Computational imaging" I think is what my computer-oriented kids of mine call it!
They tell me that their i-phone does better than my "old-school" Pentax DSLR!
Yeah, ok!!!

But I've found the i-phone to have a benefit on the freeway! Crazy drivers understand i-phones very well!!!

Angky.

Lev · 12-03-2021, 10:45 AM

This is something iPhone shooters are proud of!! FREE AUTOMATIC REALTIME EFFECTS

**MikeNArk** · 12-03-2021, 04:33 PM

Well, it looks like the bright spot in the sky is partially displayed above the front tire. Maybe a new fangled/processed lens flare?

**UncleVanya** · 12-03-2021, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by MikeNArk

Well, it looks like the bright spot in the sky is partially displayed above the front tire. Maybe a new fangled/processed lens flare?

Indeed. I suspect an AI glitch.

**JimS_256** · 12-03-2021, 06:15 PM

Strange. I have an iPhone and haven't seen anything similar. I'll be on the lookout now.

**UncleVanya** · 12-03-2021, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by JimS_256

Strange. I have an iPhone and haven't seen anything similar. I'll be on the lookout now.

I posted another iPhone shot in my Flickr feed of a different sort. To the naked eye the screen of my laptop was pitch black and the barest hint of a reflection could be seen. The iPhone was able to create an exposure that restored color and revealed my face with zero user intervention. The selfie shot is the reverse of this glitch. It shows how image manipulation can work and be a powerful way to empower a casual photographer with an image that is mostly right despite complex lighting.

Invisible Selfie by -vanya_42nd-

**dneira29** · 12-03-2021, 08:01 PM

Thats definitely strange. Were you shooting through a window by any chance?

**UncleVanya** · 12-03-2021, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by dneira29

Thats definitely strange. Were you shooting through a window by any chance?

Nope. Standing outside a few feet from the truck.

**dneira29** · 12-04-2021, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Nope. Standing outside a few feet from the truck.

Then I looks like the branches may have been reflecting into the lens as well. Maybe by some chance they were reflecting off the front window and hit the sensor at just the right angle hahah

**RGlasel** · 12-04-2021, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

To the naked eye the screen of my laptop was pitch black and the barest hint of a reflection could be seen. The iPhone was able to create an exposure that restored color and revealed my face with zero user intervention. The selfie shot is the reverse of this glitch. It shows how image manipulation can work and be a powerful way to empower a casual photographer with an image that is mostly right despite complex lighting.

Is this what you saw on your phone screen before you pressed the shutter? I find on my own phone (not an iPhone) that the LiveView image doesn't get the same processing as the saved JPEG (along with more subtle differences between viewing the image on two very different displays), which makes photography more of a hit and miss process than using a DSLR. If you can't predict how a photograph will turn out, both casual and non-casual photographers will end up frustrated more often than using a more predictable device (even if the more predictable device is far less capable).

As it is, most modern photographers (both casual and non-casual) are tending to employ a lottery technique; take lots of photos to improve the odds of finding a winner when we check them later. This becomes less rewarding when the time required to get a winner gets longer and the overall glut of photographs reduces the value of the few good ones. This might be the factor that differentiates a passing fad from a long time passion.

---------- Post added 12-04-21 at 12:02 PM ----------

Thinking back to the first 30 years of my picture taking hobby, my main source of frustration was seeing a great image in the viewfinder and discovering that the developed result was wasted because of a failure in technique. Gradually, my technique improved to the point where the main source of frustration was not being able to capture an image because of the limitations of film and my equipment.

I've never taken pictures to be creative, my motivation has always been to make souvenirs of my experiences. I think truly artistic photographers are rather rare creatures, which means that enhancing new equipment to make us common folk more artistic is likely to be wasted (it might help sell more expensive smartphones and standalone cameras in the short term, which is all that matters if you are in the business of making those devices).

Does the application of AI technology to photography empower photographers? I would argue that taking away the opportunity for the photographer to apply his or her learned skills to take better photos is the opposite of empowerment. It seems to me that eventually the people who are passionate about photography will gravitate back to dumber equipment and the less passionate will move on to something completely different.

**UncleVanya** · 12-04-2021, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by RGlasel

Is this what you saw on your phone screen before you pressed the shutter?

Yes I saw my reflection in that way which is why I was compelled to take the shot.

---------- Post added 12-04-21 at 04:27 PM ----------

Originally posted by dneira29

Then I looks like the branches may have been reflecting into the lens as well. Maybe by some chance they were reflecting off the front window and hit the sensor at just the right angle hahah

I don’t think so as it looks like the sun is in the center of that false image in the wheel well. The sun was behind the truck. I’m fairly sure this is either a massive flare or ai run amok.

**dneira29** · 12-04-2021, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Yes I saw my reflection in that way which is why I was compelled to take the shot.

---------- Post added 12-04-21 at 04:27 PM ----------

I don’t think so as it looks like the sun is in the center of that false image in the wheel well. The sun was behind the truck. I’m fairly sure this is either a massive flare or ai run amok.

Im with massive flair!

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12-03-2021, 07:11 AM	#2
5ks Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 681	Quite interesting, yes. All extra effects are not necessarily of a natural kind, nor welcome.

12-03-2021, 10:26 AM	#3
ProfessorBuzz Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 1,903	The wonders of computational photography... it's amazing what can be done with on-device software image processing these days.

12-03-2021, 10:31 AM	#4
angkymac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 9,032	"Computational imaging" I think is what my computer-oriented kids of mine call it! They tell me that their i-phone does better than my "old-school" Pentax DSLR! Yeah, ok!!! But I've found the i-phone to have a benefit on the freeway! Crazy drivers understand i-phones very well!!! Angky.

12-03-2021, 10:45 AM	#5
Lev Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Tbilisi, Georgia Posts: 1,197	This is something iPhone shooters are proud of!! FREE AUTOMATIC REALTIME EFFECTS

12-03-2021, 04:33 PM	#6
MikeNArk Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Conway, Arkansas Posts: 15,224	Well, it looks like the bright spot in the sky is partially displayed above the front tire. Maybe a new fangled/processed lens flare?

12-03-2021, 05:17 PM	#7
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,454 Original Poster	Originally posted by MikeNArk Well, it looks like the bright spot in the sky is partially displayed above the front tire. Maybe a new fangled/processed lens flare? Indeed. I suspect an AI glitch.

12-03-2021, 06:15 PM	#8
JimS_256 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,114	Strange. I have an iPhone and haven't seen anything similar. I'll be on the lookout now.

12-03-2021, 08:00 PM	#9
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,454 Original Poster	Originally posted by JimS_256 Strange. I have an iPhone and haven't seen anything similar. I'll be on the lookout now. I posted another iPhone shot in my Flickr feed of a different sort. To the naked eye the screen of my laptop was pitch black and the barest hint of a reflection could be seen. The iPhone was able to create an exposure that restored color and revealed my face with zero user intervention. The selfie shot is the reverse of this glitch. It shows how image manipulation can work and be a powerful way to empower a casual photographer with an image that is mostly right despite complex lighting. Invisible Selfie by -vanya_42nd-

12-03-2021, 08:01 PM	#10
dneira29 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 535	Thats definitely strange. Were you shooting through a window by any chance?

12-03-2021, 08:03 PM	#11
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,454 Original Poster	Originally posted by dneira29 Thats definitely strange. Were you shooting through a window by any chance? Nope. Standing outside a few feet from the truck.

12-04-2021, 07:23 AM	#12
dneira29 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 535	Originally posted by UncleVanya Nope. Standing outside a few feet from the truck. Then I looks like the branches may have been reflecting into the lens as well. Maybe by some chance they were reflecting off the front window and hit the sensor at just the right angle hahah

12-04-2021, 10:28 AM	#13
RGlasel Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Saskatoon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,229	Originally posted by UncleVanya To the naked eye the screen of my laptop was pitch black and the barest hint of a reflection could be seen. The iPhone was able to create an exposure that restored color and revealed my face with zero user intervention. The selfie shot is the reverse of this glitch. It shows how image manipulation can work and be a powerful way to empower a casual photographer with an image that is mostly right despite complex lighting. Is this what you saw on your phone screen before you pressed the shutter? I find on my own phone (not an iPhone) that the LiveView image doesn't get the same processing as the saved JPEG (along with more subtle differences between viewing the image on two very different displays), which makes photography more of a hit and miss process than using a DSLR. If you can't predict how a photograph will turn out, both casual and non-casual photographers will end up frustrated more often than using a more predictable device (even if the more predictable device is far less capable). As it is, most modern photographers (both casual and non-casual) are tending to employ a lottery technique; take lots of photos to improve the odds of finding a winner when we check them later. This becomes less rewarding when the time required to get a winner gets longer and the overall glut of photographs reduces the value of the few good ones. This might be the factor that differentiates a passing fad from a long time passion. ---------- Post added 12-04-21 at 12:02 PM ---------- Thinking back to the first 30 years of my picture taking hobby, my main source of frustration was seeing a great image in the viewfinder and discovering that the developed result was wasted because of a failure in technique. Gradually, my technique improved to the point where the main source of frustration was not being able to capture an image because of the limitations of film and my equipment. I've never taken pictures to be creative, my motivation has always been to make souvenirs of my experiences. I think truly artistic photographers are rather rare creatures, which means that enhancing new equipment to make us common folk more artistic is likely to be wasted (it might help sell more expensive smartphones and standalone cameras in the short term, which is all that matters if you are in the business of making those devices). Does the application of AI technology to photography empower photographers? I would argue that taking away the opportunity for the photographer to apply his or her learned skills to take better photos is the opposite of empowerment. It seems to me that eventually the people who are passionate about photography will gravitate back to dumber equipment and the less passionate will move on to something completely different.

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UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,454 Original Poster	Originally posted by RGlasel Is this what you saw on your phone screen before you pressed the shutter? Yes I saw my reflection in that way which is why I was compelled to take the shot. ---------- Post added 12-04-21 at 04:27 PM ---------- Originally posted by dneira29 Then I looks like the branches may have been reflecting into the lens as well. Maybe by some chance they were reflecting off the front window and hit the sensor at just the right angle hahah I don’t think so as it looks like the sun is in the center of that false image in the wheel well. The sun was behind the truck. I’m fairly sure this is either a massive flare or ai run amok.

12-04-2021, 08:42 PM	#15
dneira29 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 535	Originally posted by UncleVanya Yes I saw my reflection in that way which is why I was compelled to take the shot. ---------- Post added 12-04-21 at 04:27 PM ---------- I don’t think so as it looks like the sun is in the center of that false image in the wheel well. The sun was behind the truck. I’m fairly sure this is either a massive flare or ai run amok. Im with massive flair!