Cheap Wine Glass - With Wine

Cheap Wine Glass - With Wine · 07:39 PM

Here's a B&W shot of one of our A&P wine glasses (containing my wife's evening libation) shot hand held and as close as the lens would allow with my K20D/DA 70: ISO 1600, 1/45s @ f/4. This sort of thing really should be done with a tripod so that the lens could be stopped down, but - in keeping with the "bargain" glass (I'm not talking about the lens) - this image was copped on the cheap. BTW, the wine comes from a box and tastes about like the glass looks - at least in my view.

Jer

roentarre · 01-17-2009, 04:31 AM

The shadow makes it an interesting image. I somehow feel the image would benefit a little more contrast. I like it

**Sailor** · 01-17-2009, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by roentarre

The shadow makes it an interesting image. I somehow feel the image would benefit a little more contrast. I like it

Thanks, James. I prepared another, more contrasty version; what do you think? Did I overdo it? The new image is first, followed by the original.

Jer

daacon · 01-17-2009, 08:12 AM

I prefer the second shot Jer . Wine from a box eh ...can't say I am much of a wine connoisseur (I am suppose to I suppose at my age haha) - still love my Beer (which loves me less and less as I age on but consider the alternative I am ok with that ha ha ) - I do like the odd glass of Shiraz though ...

mithrandir · 01-17-2009, 08:17 AM

The wine looks more drinkable in the 2nd (more contrasted) shot.

woodworm · 01-17-2009, 08:23 AM

Think I prefer the original image, the glass looks super-imposed to me in the second pic.

I'm guessing you're not a big fan of that wine then?

**Heinrich Lohmann** · 01-17-2009, 12:00 PM

I like the second version better, cheap glass and all. As for the wine in a box, does it still come any other way? LOL,

Jimbo · 01-17-2009, 02:04 PM

Like the rest Jer I prefer the second image. It also looks sharper now. JIM

roentarre · 01-17-2009, 02:14 PM

Hey, Jer. Hope you don't mind doing a little retouch.

roentarre · 01-17-2009, 02:14 PM

Oops, a little too strong for the black side. I will re-do this after swim! Sorry.

**Sailor** · 01-17-2009, 03:53 PM

Thanks everyone for the comments and coaching - please keep it coming! Special thanks to James for going to the trouble of massaging the picture!

Regarding wine (and other epicurean pursuits) I am totally "tone deaf". Like Dave, my normal libation is good old beer. I also love Tanq and tonic with a lime (classic G&T), which is difficult to find well made - surprising given its simplicity.

I hope my Canadian and northern friends aren't too cold - we hit almost 70F today and tomorrow promises to be warmer.

Jer

Class A · 01-17-2009, 04:16 PM

No offence, but I think this is a subject where B&W doesn't work at all. Unless the colour of the wine is as awful as it's taste, I'd exploit the nice shades of colour you should be able out of wine and some supporting lighting.

Some B&W versions of images really add something to an image. Here it doesn't work, AFAIC.

**Sailor** · 01-17-2009, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Class A

No offence, but I think this is a subject where B&W doesn't work at all. Unless the colour of the wine is as awful as it's taste, I'd exploit the nice shades of colour you should be able out of wine and some supporting lighting.

Some B&W versions of images really add something to an image. Here it doesn't work, AFAIC.

No offense taken, whatsoever - I wouldn't invite comments if I didn't want to hear answers. Here's a color version. Of course, keep in mind this is not a "serious" shot - and my interest here is technique more than anything.

Thanks for the response.

Jer

Class A · 01-18-2009, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by Sailor

Here's a color version.

Ah! Just want the doctor ordered against the depression acquired from the first versions.

It looks more like cognac than wine but I personally prefer this one a lot more. I'd try other perspectives and tighter framing (not all of the glass needs to be in the frame).

**Sailor** · 01-18-2009, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Class A

Ah! Just want the doctor ordered against the depression acquired from the first versions.

It looks more like cognac than wine but I personally prefer this one a lot more. I'd try other perspectives and tighter framing (not all of the glass needs to be in the frame).

Thanks much for looking again and your forthright response. While I don't see any version of this picture a "keeper", I'm still more taken with the B&W variation -particularly after I goosed the contrast per James' suggestion. But, hey, the fact we see things differently is what makes the world interesting.

Jer

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01-17-2009, 07:40 PM	#13
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,205 Original Poster	Originally posted by Class A No offence, but I think this is a subject where B&W doesn't work at all. Unless the colour of the wine is as awful as it's taste, I'd exploit the nice shades of colour you should be able out of wine and some supporting lighting. Some B&W versions of images really add something to an image. Here it doesn't work, AFAIC. No offense taken, whatsoever - I wouldn't invite comments if I didn't want to hear answers. Here's a color version. Of course, keep in mind this is not a "serious" shot - and my interest here is technique more than anything. Thanks for the response. Jer Last edited by Sailor; 01-17-2009 at 07:56 PM. Reason: senility

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01-17-2009, 04:31 AM	#2
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	The shadow makes it an interesting image. I somehow feel the image would benefit a little more contrast. I like it

01-17-2009, 06:58 AM	#3
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,205 Original Poster	Originally posted by roentarre The shadow makes it an interesting image. I somehow feel the image would benefit a little more contrast. I like it Thanks, James. I prepared another, more contrasty version; what do you think? Did I overdo it? The new image is first, followed by the original. Jer

01-17-2009, 08:12 AM	#4
daacon Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alberta,Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 20,914	I prefer the second shot Jer . Wine from a box eh ...can't say I am much of a wine connoisseur (I am suppose to I suppose at my age haha) - still love my Beer (which loves me less and less as I age on but consider the alternative I am ok with that ha ha ) - I do like the odd glass of Shiraz though ...

01-17-2009, 08:17 AM	#5
mithrandir Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,895	The wine looks more drinkable in the 2nd (more contrasted) shot.

01-17-2009, 08:23 AM	#6
woodworm Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North Wales Posts: 266	Think I prefer the original image, the glass looks super-imposed to me in the second pic. I'm guessing you're not a big fan of that wine then?

01-17-2009, 12:00 PM	#7
Heinrich Lohmann Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Airdrie, Alberta Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,097	I like the second version better, cheap glass and all. As for the wine in a box, does it still come any other way? LOL,

01-17-2009, 02:04 PM	#8
Jimbo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maple Ridge BC Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,368	Like the rest Jer I prefer the second image. It also looks sharper now. JIM

01-17-2009, 02:14 PM	#9
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	Hey, Jer. Hope you don't mind doing a little retouch.

01-17-2009, 02:14 PM	#10
roentarre Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 11,783	Oops, a little too strong for the black side. I will re-do this after swim! Sorry.

01-17-2009, 03:53 PM	#11
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,205 Original Poster	Thanks everyone for the comments and coaching - please keep it coming! Special thanks to James for going to the trouble of massaging the picture! Regarding wine (and other epicurean pursuits) I am totally "tone deaf". Like Dave, my normal libation is good old beer. I also love Tanq and tonic with a lime (classic G&T), which is difficult to find well made - surprising given its simplicity. I hope my Canadian and northern friends aren't too cold - we hit almost 70F today and tomorrow promises to be warmer. Jer

01-17-2009, 04:16 PM	#12
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	No offence, but I think this is a subject where B&W doesn't work at all. Unless the colour of the wine is as awful as it's taste, I'd exploit the nice shades of colour you should be able out of wine and some supporting lighting. Some B&W versions of images really add something to an image. Here it doesn't work, AFAIC.

01-18-2009, 01:56 AM	#14
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Sailor Here's a color version. Ah! Just want the doctor ordered against the depression acquired from the first versions. It looks more like cognac than wine but I personally prefer this one a lot more. I'd try other perspectives and tighter framing (not all of the glass needs to be in the frame).

01-18-2009, 06:57 AM	#15
Sailor Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coastal Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 26,205 Original Poster	Originally posted by Class A Ah! Just want the doctor ordered against the depression acquired from the first versions. It looks more like cognac than wine but I personally prefer this one a lot more. I'd try other perspectives and tighter framing (not all of the glass needs to be in the frame). Thanks much for looking again and your forthright response. While I don't see any version of this picture a "keeper", I'm still more taken with the B&W variation -particularly after I goosed the contrast per James' suggestion. But, hey, the fact we see things differently is what makes the world interesting. Jer