Originally posted by graphicgr8s No argument on that. At all. But a cyclist moves pretty quickly. Let's face it when you're pulling into traffic from a lot you are going to pull out quickly to get in. 2 seconds and the cyclist can be on you and you'd never see him.
Jogger would usually stop and wait. Or jog in place while waiting. Or go behind the car. Cyclists tend to go in front.
Too many cyclists are idiots... you are right about that!
But like I said, during my years of riding in San Francisco, once drivers pulled up and started looking back to the left looking for a break in the traffic, few looked back to the right before pulling out... it did not matter if it was 2 sec or 30 seconds. They hit the gas and go...
And when you ride on the street for a few years you usually eat at least one or two car doors... Bicyclists are idiots, but many people in cars are totally unaware of the world outside of their cars. Especially now in the year of the cell phone / PDA
Now, I have to go teach my 6 year old to ride her bike. She just learned how to ride it yesterday, now I have to teach her how to stop better. You can see why this topic is a little too close to home for me today!
-EDIT- sorry, I forgot this was in the "post your photos' section. My apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread... I should have looked both ways before posting!