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Some snaps from Rome · 08:57 PM

I went to Rome on September 5th. I returned on September 12th with these:

Looking up the circular stairway of the Vatican Museum.

No tripods allowed? Bah! I got away with it this time.

I'm not sure why anyone would copy these, but just in case, all images are © Paul Kounine 2009.

Frank B · 09-20-2009, 10:29 PM

Nicely done.

**Ash** · 09-21-2009, 01:56 AM

Good travel pics.
Why no tripod allowed there?

mischivo · 09-21-2009, 07:53 AM

The Catholic authorities at churches do not permit the use of tripods because you are within a "sacred" place. Actually, that's written at some locations, but the real reason is undisclosed, as the clergy that pesters you about the tripods doesn't speak English and can't explain anything. I believe the actual reason is to maintain a monopoly on "good" photos of the location so that tourists will buy them at the gift shops after they realize their personal shots are either too noisy, too blurry, or too dark. Why are gift shops allowed in "sacred" places?

Jasvox · 09-21-2009, 08:22 AM

I go to the Vatican about 10-12 times each year...the reason for the tripods and monopods isn't to do with anything sacred, it has to do with the limitations of anything within the Vatican museum, the Chapels and the Basilica that may be used to cause harm to the objects of art and any of the physical parts of the buildings within the Vatican from tourists and visitors. With the millions of visitors each year through there, it is always a concern about the one in a few hundred thousand which go there intently on harming or causing vandalism.

Jas

mischivo · 09-21-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Jasvox

I go to the Vatican about 10-12 times each year...the reason for the tripods and monopods isn't to do with anything sacred, it has to do with the limitations of anything within the Vatican museum, the Chapels and the Basilica that may be used to cause harm to the objects of art and any of the physical parts of the buildings within the Vatican from tourists and visitors. With the millions of visitors each year through there, it is always a concern about the one in a few hundred thousand which go there intently on harming or causing vandalism.

Jas

I would believe you, and it makes sense for the Vatican Museum, as they made me check my tripod at the front before we entered the Museum proper. However, my complaint is more about the actual churches around Rome, where they let you in with a tripod, don't mind if you carry it, but approach you as soon as you start splaying the legs. Clearly they don't fear I'll damage their fine buildings with a folded tripod that I constantly swing back and forth, but as soon as it's immobile and has the capacity for least damage, they freak out. I'm telling you man, it's all about restriction of imagery and maintaining a monopoly on the good ones.

**Rense** · 09-21-2009, 08:33 AM

Ahh, Rome, la bella città, la splendida città. Thanks for bringing back numurous good memories. I just love that city, it's probably the most beautifull one I've ever paid a visit.

**Rense** · 09-21-2009, 08:33 AM

Oh, and great shots BTW

!

and · 09-22-2009, 03:26 AM

really like those sunrays coming from the windows in the dome in nr 2

daacon · 09-22-2009, 05:06 AM

Anotehr place with a rich history - I love #2 nice series.

**Marc Langille** · 09-22-2009, 05:21 AM

Pavel, beautiful series. I am with Dave on the second image and the streaming rays of light coming through the windows as being quite the image!

Regards,
Marc

mischivo · 09-22-2009, 01:22 PM

Thanks guys. I'm kind of disappointed in the 2nd image: I'm upset for not having the presence of mind to include more of the Latin text by tilting down a bit.

Gooshin · 09-22-2009, 01:44 PM

are you regretting using slides?

mischivo · 09-22-2009, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Gooshin

are you regretting using slides?

Only with a handful of photos where the whites were overexposed. For the most part, no.

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09-21-2009, 08:29 AM	#6
mischivo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 397 Original Poster	Originally posted by Jasvox I go to the Vatican about 10-12 times each year...the reason for the tripods and monopods isn't to do with anything sacred, it has to do with the limitations of anything within the Vatican museum, the Chapels and the Basilica that may be used to cause harm to the objects of art and any of the physical parts of the buildings within the Vatican from tourists and visitors. With the millions of visitors each year through there, it is always a concern about the one in a few hundred thousand which go there intently on harming or causing vandalism. Jas I would believe you, and it makes sense for the Vatican Museum, as they made me check my tripod at the front before we entered the Museum proper. However, my complaint is more about the actual churches around Rome, where they let you in with a tripod, don't mind if you carry it, but approach you as soon as you start splaying the legs. Clearly they don't fear I'll damage their fine buildings with a folded tripod that I constantly swing back and forth, but as soon as it's immobile and has the capacity for least damage, they freak out. I'm telling you man, it's all about restriction of imagery and maintaining a monopoly on the good ones. Last edited by mischivo; 09-22-2009 at 02:35 PM.

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mischivo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 397 Original Poster	The Catholic authorities at churches do not permit the use of tripods because you are within a "sacred" place. Actually, that's written at some locations, but the real reason is undisclosed, as the clergy that pesters you about the tripods doesn't speak English and can't explain anything. I believe the actual reason is to maintain a monopoly on "good" photos of the location so that tourists will buy them at the gift shops after they realize their personal shots are either too noisy, too blurry, or too dark. Why are gift shops allowed in "sacred" places?

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Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	I go to the Vatican about 10-12 times each year...the reason for the tripods and monopods isn't to do with anything sacred, it has to do with the limitations of anything within the Vatican museum, the Chapels and the Basilica that may be used to cause harm to the objects of art and any of the physical parts of the buildings within the Vatican from tourists and visitors. With the millions of visitors each year through there, it is always a concern about the one in a few hundred thousand which go there intently on harming or causing vandalism. Jas

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Rense Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zetten - The Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,050	Ahh, Rome, la bella città, la splendida città. Thanks for bringing back numurous good memories. I just love that city, it's probably the most beautifull one I've ever paid a visit.

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Rense Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zetten - The Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,050	Oh, and great shots BTW !

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and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	really like those sunrays coming from the windows in the dome in nr 2

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Marc Langille Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NW Arkansas, USA Posts: 4,710	Pavel, beautiful series. I am with Dave on the second image and the streaming rays of light coming through the windows as being quite the image! Regards, Marc

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mischivo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 397 Original Poster	Thanks guys. I'm kind of disappointed in the 2nd image: I'm upset for not having the presence of mind to include more of the Latin text by tilting down a bit.

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Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	are you regretting using slides?

09-22-2009, 02:36 PM	#14
mischivo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 397 Original Poster	Originally posted by Gooshin are you regretting using slides? Only with a handful of photos where the whites were overexposed. For the most part, no.

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