Ok, I was asked on the sunset shots this morning how close the photo was to the orginal. Here is a example. The first one is straight out of the camera loading into Photo Shop Elements and cropped on the right only. Not other adjustments were made. The second photo is after the PP work where I lightening the water to bring out more of the reds and also the fog between the forground and the sky. I added a small amount of saturation to the overall image. Cloned out the branch on the bottom right. Hit save and here is the shot. I will still play around with it a bit more and will post the completed shot in a day or two. Just trying to show how close the orginal was to the PP work. JIM