Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
  #1
Casulties of War
Lens: 16mm Camera: Pentax MZ-S Photo Location: Woodmere Cemetary, Detroit, Mi. 
Posted By: JeffJS, 04-15-2010, 05:26 PM



Pentax MZ-S, Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Ilford PanF+50


Views: 1,298
04-18-2010, 03:50 AM   #2
Pentaxian
jct us101's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Rohnert Park, CA
Posts: 3,700
I'm not quite sure that I like the fisheye effect on this one quite as much, and it looks like you use d a way too high ISO for this kind of photo. Also, the sun is intruding in a very ugly way and if you could find a way to clean all of those things up, it would look very nice.
04-18-2010, 07:13 AM   #3
Inactive Account




Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Michigan, USA
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,484
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by jct us101 Quote
I'm not quite sure that I like the fisheye effect on this one quite as much, and it looks like you use d a way too high ISO for this kind of photo. Also, the sun is intruding in a very ugly way and if you could find a way to clean all of those things up, it would look very nice.
Too high ISO? I've never considered ASA 50 to be high but maybe some do. I'll have to go back and try it with no sun and some of the ASA 25 that I have..

04-18-2010, 05:19 PM   #4
Veteran Member
Tuner571's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ohio
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 1,550
This is a very good photo, it does look a bit grainy, but it adds to the vintage feel of the image. Also, shooting in black and white really sets the mood for it as well. Thanks for sharing this wonderful photo.

04-18-2010, 09:29 PM   #5
Veteran Member
Pentaxie's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Kuala Lumpur Malaysia
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 429
I never have a penchant for fish-eye view. Never-the-less this is good B&W photo, IMO.
Eventhough it looks slightly grainy, maybe because of the high ISO for this kind of photo.

Cheers.
04-18-2010, 11:05 PM   #6
Inactive Account




Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Michigan, USA
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,484
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by Tuner571 Quote
This is a very good photo, it does look a bit grainy, but it adds to the vintage feel of the image. Also, shooting in black and white really sets the mood for it as well. Thanks for sharing this wonderful photo.
Thank you, Cory...

QuoteOriginally posted by Pentaxie Quote
I never have a penchant for fish-eye view. Never-the-less this is good B&W photo, IMO.
Eventhough it looks slightly grainy, maybe because of the high ISO for this kind of photo.

Cheers.
I guess for the benefit of those who have 0 exposure to film and darkroom printing, I'll explain it.. While the Pentax MZ-S (a film camera) has the ability to change the film roll, mid-roll to get a different ASA (I refuse to use ISO for film) it is inconvenient to do. When doing Wet prints from a film frame, the goal is to focus On the film grain. That's how you know you've achieved optimum focus for the print. The higher the ASA (film speed) the more pronounced the grain is going to be. There are also factors in the processing of the film that will affect it. There is Always going to be grain with film but the lower speed films have a Finer grain.

I think people get FAR too wrapped up with Grain or noise to see the bigger picture. I can assure you that I can make a print of that photo and unless looking at it with a 10x loupe, it will be smooth as silk.

For what it's worth, the ASA, Film Speed, ISO, whatever you want to call it, Is 50. Not 500, not 5000, but 50. Show me a Pentax DSLR that will do That.

04-19-2010, 01:20 AM   #7
Veteran Member
Pentaxie's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Kuala Lumpur Malaysia
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 429
QuoteOriginally posted by JeffJS Quote
I guess for the benefit of those who have 0 exposure to film and darkroom printing, I'll explain it.. While the Pentax MZ-S (a film camera) has the ability to change the film roll, mid-roll to get a different ASA (I refuse to use ISO for film) it is inconvenient to do. When doing Wet prints from a film frame, the goal is to focus On the film grain. That's how you know you've achieved optimum focus for the print. The higher the ASA (film speed) the more pronounced the grain is going to be. There are also factors in the processing of the film that will affect it. There is Always going to be grain with film but the lower speed films have a Finer grain.

I think people get FAR too wrapped up with Grain or noise to see the bigger picture. I can assure you that I can make a print of that photo and unless looking at it with a 10x loupe, it will be smooth as silk.

For what it's worth, the ASA, Film Speed, ISO, whatever you want to call it, Is 50. Not 500, not 5000, but 50. Show me a Pentax DSLR that will do That.

Point noted, Jeff.
At ISO 50, it should be smooth as silk. But still it looks grainy to my naked eyes.
Anyway, Tuner summs it already, at least it gives a slight vintage feel.

Cheers.
04-19-2010, 01:53 AM   #8
Veteran Member
kevinschoenmakers's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Shanghai
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 1,509
Don't listen to what the other say. The graininess, the fish-eye effect, the black and white, the sun I think it all fits perfectly

04-19-2010, 03:28 AM   #9
Inactive Account




Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Michigan, USA
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,484
Original Poster
QuoteOriginally posted by kevinschoenmakers Quote
Don't listen to what the other say. The graininess, the fish-eye effect, the black and white, the sun I think it all fits perfectly
Thank you..
04-19-2010, 05:24 AM   #10
Inactive Account




Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Fredericton
Posts: 68
I really like the graininess in this photo
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
camera, photo
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nature Turkeys at war kent vinyard Post Your Photos! 5 11-04-2009 10:34 AM
Soldiers Of War Gigahz Post Your Photos! 16 01-15-2009 04:48 PM
War on photographers JCSullivan General Talk 27 07-01-2008 02:55 AM
Acutal War Photography dosdan Photographic Technique 27 06-17-2008 06:22 AM
first event: world against war pete_pf Post Your Photos! 3 03-17-2008 09:59 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:53 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top