Whats up with my takumar 200mm???

**marcusBMG** · 03-03-2014, 10:58 AM

Here is my newly acquired Tak 200mm f3.5

And here's the problem:

100% crops: f3.5

f8

Now I can't see anything too much amiss with the lens apart from the mount is a bit loose. But I was wondering whether internal flare due to degraded black paint might cause this? WDYT?

The other problem that the lens has is it doesn't focus to infinity.

FrankC · 03-03-2014, 11:02 AM

Since the problem resolves itself at f/8, then my guess is that your lens has an element or two out of alignment.

**Lowell Goudge** · 03-03-2014, 11:43 AM

my copy of this lens is tack sharp even wide open, and internal flare is not really an issue, although i use a B&K 67MM diameter 35mm long metal hood with it. what about an element backwards? just a thought.

also you say it does not infinity focus properly, is the shot you took at infinity? what about closer. maybe it is just the infinity focus issue getting you

MysteryOnion · 03-03-2014, 11:43 AM

Is the front elements loose? That happened to my 135/2.5. It was a threaded thin ring the over time spun out of position and caused a similar issue as yours. It was evident when I had moved the lens from front facing down to up and heard a odd air valve sound and tiny squeak as the element shifted from forward to back. This was from about three or four turns of the ring to re-seat the element.

**marcusBMG** · 03-03-2014, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by FrankC

Since the problem resolves itself at f/8, then my guess is that your lens has an element or two out of alignment.

You could be right, the lens shows signs of having been messed with... that could explain both issues in one go.

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

also you say it does not infinity focus properly, is the shot you took at infinity? what about closer. maybe it is just the infinity focus issue getting you

Hi Lowell, the pic was at about 50', I was focussing with live view, next time I'l note the focus distance reading off the ring but in any case I was comfortably short of rotating the focus to infinity

Originally posted by MysteryOnion

s the front elements loose?

nope

---------- Post added 3rd Mar 2014 at 19:57 ----------

I'm going to try turning around the second element. its double concave (according to the optical diagram in the reviews) so easy to replace the wrong way round.

UPDATE: AHA!! Second element was loose. Focussing across the room with my G1 already looks a lot better. Test properly tomorrow.

**Lowell Goudge** · 03-03-2014, 02:27 PM

I wish you success it is a great lens.

**marcusBMG** · 03-04-2014, 10:34 AM

Thats more like it!

f3.5 100% crop (compare)

Attached Images

**marcusBMG** · 03-06-2014, 11:56 AM

Cropped, contrast and sharpen. F3.5 I think. 1/1250th hand held

03-03-2014, 10:58 AM	#1
marcusBMG Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,869	Whats up with my takumar 200mm??? Here is my newly acquired Tak 200mm f3.5 And here's the problem: 100% crops: f3.5 f8 Now I can't see anything too much amiss with the lens apart from the mount is a bit loose. But I was wondering whether internal flare due to degraded black paint might cause this? WDYT? The other problem that the lens has is it doesn't focus to infinity.

03-03-2014, 12:07 PM	#5
marcusBMG Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,869 Original Poster	Originally posted by FrankC Since the problem resolves itself at f/8, then my guess is that your lens has an element or two out of alignment. You could be right, the lens shows signs of having been messed with... that could explain both issues in one go. Originally posted by Lowell Goudge also you say it does not infinity focus properly, is the shot you took at infinity? what about closer. maybe it is just the infinity focus issue getting you Hi Lowell, the pic was at about 50', I was focussing with live view, next time I'l note the focus distance reading off the ring but in any case I was comfortably short of rotating the focus to infinity Originally posted by MysteryOnion s the front elements loose? nope ---------- Post added 3rd Mar 2014 at 19:57 ---------- I'm going to try turning around the second element. its double concave (according to the optical diagram in the reviews) so easy to replace the wrong way round. UPDATE: AHA!! Second element was loose. Focussing across the room with my G1 already looks a lot better. Test properly tomorrow. Last edited by marcusBMG; 03-03-2014 at 01:12 PM.

03-06-2014, 11:56 AM	#8
marcusBMG Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,869 Original Poster	Another test pic - the bird blinked! Cropped, contrast and sharpen. F3.5 I think. 1/1250th hand held Attached Images Last edited by marcusBMG; 03-06-2014 at 12:10 PM.

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03-03-2014, 11:02 AM	#2
FrankC Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 322	Since the problem resolves itself at f/8, then my guess is that your lens has an element or two out of alignment.

03-03-2014, 11:43 AM	#3
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,891	my copy of this lens is tack sharp even wide open, and internal flare is not really an issue, although i use a B&K 67MM diameter 35mm long metal hood with it. what about an element backwards? just a thought. also you say it does not infinity focus properly, is the shot you took at infinity? what about closer. maybe it is just the infinity focus issue getting you

03-03-2014, 11:43 AM	#4
MysteryOnion Giveaway winner! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: beantown Photos: Albums Posts: 944	Is the front elements loose? That happened to my 135/2.5. It was a threaded thin ring the over time spun out of position and caused a similar issue as yours. It was evident when I had moved the lens from front facing down to up and heard a odd air valve sound and tiny squeak as the element shifted from forward to back. This was from about three or four turns of the ring to re-seat the element.

03-03-2014, 02:27 PM	#6
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,891	I wish you success it is a great lens.

03-04-2014, 10:34 AM	#7
marcusBMG Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,869 Original Poster	Thats more like it! f3.5 100% crop (compare) Attached Images