Voigtländer LBA - post your pics, notes and thoughts.

Bart · 01-06-2012, 01:21 PM

The 75mm is the only one I don't own from the SLI series - over two platforms.
I've seen a comparison with the FA 77mm Ltd here on the forum and since I already had the latter, I never went for the 75mm.

There is a new version announced of the 75mm: a f/1.8. Supposed to be the same optical formula as the one in M-Mount that is already available.
I don't really understand how an M lens might have the same optical formula a an SLR lens.

BTW, an old photo that I recently converted to B&W just got accepted in PPG

Voigtländer APO Lanthar 125mm f/2.5 - one of my all time favourites in Pentax mount.

les3547 · 01-06-2012, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Bart

There is a new version announced of the 75mm: a f/1.8. Supposed to be the same optical formula as the one in M-Mount that is already available.

A 75mm made by whom?

Originally posted by Bart

BTW, an old photo that I recently converted to B&W just got accepted in PPG

Voigtländer APO Lanthar 125mm f/2.5 - one of my all time favourites in Pentax mount.

Great shot Bart. I think B&W was an excellent processing choice. The VL 125 is the only one I don't have, I keep waiting for someone to take pity on me and sell me theirs at a decent price.

Originally posted by kaipa

Hi Les,

I've heard rumors (maybe in this thread) that VL 75/2.5 formula was bought by Pentax and then used to produce Pentax DA 70/2.4 lens. The VL lens was discontinued shortly before DA 70/2.4 came out. Do you have DA 70/2.4 to compare? Just curious. Personally, I don't think that's true. The images that I've seen from DA 70 are quite different from yours VL. But interesting... You are one of quite a few people owning VL 75/2.5, so you can probably tell something from your experience.

I've never heard that one, and I don't have a DA 70 to compare. I have owned quite a few DA lenses, including two Limiteds; I also was loaned the FA31 Limited by a member for a shootout against the Contax/Zeiss 28mm; finally, let me throw in that in my film days I owned a few Leica lenses. From my experience I would say the DA lenses, Limited or not, are very different from Voigtlander -- a closer match to the VL lenses would be the FA Limiteds and Leica. Zeiss, when they get it right, seem warmest of any lens I've tried.

A difference I believe I notice between DA lenses and the VLs (besides color rendering) is edges. Excluding macro lenses, which are normally extra-razor sharp, the VL lenses seem to create edges that look to have a bit of depth to them, while DA lenses (to my eye) seem to create images that look flat in the picture. The DA lens might create a crisper image, but I believe the VLs create a more natural image (and without loss of detail) since in real life our eyes do see an image in 3D (I believe the same quality is found in many FA LTDs, Zeiss and Leica lenses).

Bart · 01-06-2012, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by les3547

A 75mm made by whom?

Sorry, by Voigtländer - unfortunately not in PK mount

Originally posted by les3547

Great shot Bart. I think B&W was an excellent processing choice. The VL 125 is the only one I don't have, I keep waiting for someone to take pity on me and sell me theirs at a decent price.

Thanks for the compliment, Les!

I'll hold on to mine for now

kaipa · 01-08-2012, 12:53 PM - **1 Like**

VL 20/3.5 wide open, close focus, 1/10 handheld.

vinceloc · 01-29-2012, 02:32 AM

CV Nokton 58/1.4 SLII @ f2

les3547 · 01-29-2012, 09:52 AM

Good job vincent. Colors are very natural, and F2 looks like a great portrait choice for the Nokton.

**jeffshaddix** · 01-29-2012, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by vinceloc

CV Nokton 58/1.4 SLII @ f2

Great work! I agree with les that f/2 seems to be the sweet spot for portraiture like this. Head shots could probably stand f/2.8.

vinceloc · 01-29-2012, 05:53 PM

Thanks guys.

Speaking of f2.8, here's a shot of the same model in a slightly different angle and distance, but this time using an aperture of f2.8. Good for comparative purposes for those interested

Frogfish · 01-29-2012, 08:00 PM

Bart that is one seriously superb B&W conversion.

f2 all the way there Vincent, much better isolation (even though the perspective is slightly different too).

Bart · 01-30-2012, 12:00 PM

Thanks Frogfish! Appreciated.

Patriot · 02-06-2012, 03:55 AM - **1 Like**

Photos taken with the VL 125/2.5

les3547 · 02-06-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Patriot

Photos taken with the VL 125/2.5

Beautiful.

**jpzk** · 02-06-2012, 08:13 PM

Quick question to the pro's of Voiglander here:

What would be a reasonable price to pay for a new Voigtlander APO-Lanthar SL II 90mm f/3.5 ... ?

Thanks for any help.

JP

les3547 · 02-06-2012, 08:29 PM

It looks like prices are rising, which is to be expected as the last new Voigtlanders are sold. The best price I found was $599 at B&H. It is a great lens, well worth the price, but I think I paid about $100 less over a year ago.

**jpzk** · 02-07-2012, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by les3547

It looks like prices are rising, which is to be expected as the last new Voigtlanders are sold. The best price I found was $599 at B&H. It is a great lens, well worth the price, but I think I paid about $100 less over a year ago.

Thanks!

The price I had spotted was $649.00 ... so, a bit too much.

JP

01-29-2012, 08:00 PM	#699
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Bart that is one seriously superb B&W conversion. f2 all the way there Vincent, much better isolation (even though the perspective is slightly different too). Last edited by Frogfish; 01-29-2012 at 08:14 PM.

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01-06-2012, 01:21 PM	#691
Bart Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: WW community of Pentax users Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,646	The 75mm is the only one I don't own from the SLI series - over two platforms. I've seen a comparison with the FA 77mm Ltd here on the forum and since I already had the latter, I never went for the 75mm. There is a new version announced of the 75mm: a f/1.8. Supposed to be the same optical formula as the one in M-Mount that is already available. I don't really understand how an M lens might have the same optical formula a an SLR lens. BTW, an old photo that I recently converted to B&W just got accepted in PPG Voigtländer APO Lanthar 125mm f/2.5 - one of my all time favourites in Pentax mount.

01-06-2012, 01:45 PM	#692
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	Originally posted by Bart There is a new version announced of the 75mm: a f/1.8. Supposed to be the same optical formula as the one in M-Mount that is already available. A 75mm made by whom? Originally posted by Bart BTW, an old photo that I recently converted to B&W just got accepted in PPG Voigtländer APO Lanthar 125mm f/2.5 - one of my all time favourites in Pentax mount. Great shot Bart. I think B&W was an excellent processing choice. The VL 125 is the only one I don't have, I keep waiting for someone to take pity on me and sell me theirs at a decent price. Originally posted by kaipa Hi Les, I've heard rumors (maybe in this thread) that VL 75/2.5 formula was bought by Pentax and then used to produce Pentax DA 70/2.4 lens. The VL lens was discontinued shortly before DA 70/2.4 came out. Do you have DA 70/2.4 to compare? Just curious. Personally, I don't think that's true. The images that I've seen from DA 70 are quite different from yours VL. But interesting... You are one of quite a few people owning VL 75/2.5, so you can probably tell something from your experience. I've never heard that one, and I don't have a DA 70 to compare. I have owned quite a few DA lenses, including two Limiteds; I also was loaned the FA31 Limited by a member for a shootout against the Contax/Zeiss 28mm; finally, let me throw in that in my film days I owned a few Leica lenses. From my experience I would say the DA lenses, Limited or not, are very different from Voigtlander -- a closer match to the VL lenses would be the FA Limiteds and Leica. Zeiss, when they get it right, seem warmest of any lens I've tried. A difference I believe I notice between DA lenses and the VLs (besides color rendering) is edges. Excluding macro lenses, which are normally extra-razor sharp, the VL lenses seem to create edges that look to have a bit of depth to them, while DA lenses (to my eye) seem to create images that look flat in the picture. The DA lens might create a crisper image, but I believe the VLs create a more natural image (and without loss of detail) since in real life our eyes do see an image in 3D (I believe the same quality is found in many FA LTDs, Zeiss and Leica lenses).

01-06-2012, 01:53 PM	#693
Bart Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: WW community of Pentax users Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,646	Originally posted by les3547 A 75mm made by whom? Sorry, by Voigtländer - unfortunately not in PK mount Originally posted by les3547 Great shot Bart. I think B&W was an excellent processing choice. The VL 125 is the only one I don't have, I keep waiting for someone to take pity on me and sell me theirs at a decent price. Thanks for the compliment, Les! I'll hold on to mine for now

01-08-2012, 12:53 PM - 1 Like	#694
kaipa Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Zhukovsky,Russia / SF Bay Area Posts: 249	VL 20/3.5 wide open, close focus, 1/10 handheld.

01-29-2012, 02:32 AM	#695
vinceloc Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 367	CV Nokton 58/1.4 SLII @ f2

01-29-2012, 09:52 AM	#696
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	Good job vincent. Colors are very natural, and F2 looks like a great portrait choice for the Nokton.

01-29-2012, 10:41 AM	#697
jeffshaddix Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,473	Originally posted by vinceloc CV Nokton 58/1.4 SLII @ f2 Great work! I agree with les that f/2 seems to be the sweet spot for portraiture like this. Head shots could probably stand f/2.8.

01-29-2012, 05:53 PM	#698
vinceloc Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 367	Thanks guys. Speaking of f2.8, here's a shot of the same model in a slightly different angle and distance, but this time using an aperture of f2.8. Good for comparative purposes for those interested

01-30-2012, 12:00 PM	#700
Bart Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: WW community of Pentax users Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,646	Thanks Frogfish! Appreciated.

02-06-2012, 03:55 AM - 1 Like	#701
Patriot Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holy Land Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,165	Photos taken with the VL 125/2.5

02-06-2012, 07:36 PM	#702
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	Originally posted by Patriot Photos taken with the VL 125/2.5 Beautiful.

02-06-2012, 08:13 PM	#703
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Quick question to the pro's of Voiglander here: What would be a reasonable price to pay for a new Voigtlander APO-Lanthar SL II 90mm f/3.5 ... ? Thanks for any help. JP

02-06-2012, 08:29 PM	#704
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	It looks like prices are rising, which is to be expected as the last new Voigtlanders are sold. The best price I found was $599 at B&H. It is a great lens, well worth the price, but I think I paid about $100 less over a year ago.

02-07-2012, 01:41 PM	#705
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by les3547 It looks like prices are rising, which is to be expected as the last new Voigtlanders are sold. The best price I found was $599 at B&H. It is a great lens, well worth the price, but I think I paid about $100 less over a year ago. Thanks! The price I had spotted was $649.00 ... so, a bit too much. JP