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les3547 · 07-21-2011, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Frogfish

I think I'll have to see if I can find the VLII58/1.4 and take some shots side by side with VLI50/1.8 (which I love).

I look forward to that.

Originally posted by Frogfish

Those DKL mount Voigtlander 135mm f4.0 Super-Dynarex go for around US$100 over here with the 2.8 versions around US$150. The f4.0 look much nicer though with the silver banding

The 200/4 goes for US$200-400 when you can find them. There's even a Skopagon 40/2 if you have SU$1,000 to spare !

Thanks for the info Kevin. I can't seem to find out if the Super Bessematic Dynarex uses a DKL mount, or if I have to grind it first to fit the adapter, as is shown in that link I gave you. Nobody selling them seems to bother to describe the Bessematic mount type. Do you know?

Frogfish · 07-22-2011, 06:54 AM

Les. I think if you read through this thread it should answer your question : Bessamatic / Ultramatic mount lens

les3547 · 07-22-2011, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Frogfish

Les. I think if you read through this thread it should answer your question : Bessamatic / Ultramatic mount lens

Thanks so much Kevin, sounds like more VL lenses are available for Pentax than I realized!

mika. · 07-22-2011, 08:14 AM

les3547 · 07-22-2011, 08:43 AM

Interesting light Mika, were the clouds/sky really green or is that how the Ultron rendered them?

Bart · 07-22-2011, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by jurysi

...I don't like the idea of comparing lenses and prefer to let them stand on their own, but I'm curious how the 75 would compare generally the the 77 limited.

I believe you can find a nice comparison in this thread.

mika. · 07-22-2011, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by les3547

Interesting light Mika, were the clouds/sky really green or is that how the Ultron rendered them?

Neither. The turquoise clouds are basically a side effect of me playing around with various filters for dramatic effect.

Bart · 07-22-2011, 11:05 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by snipenekkid

If you use matrix metering remember to make sure the copy you are being offered is the SLII version as they are chipped to allow matrix metering. Not sure how much of a difference it makes but would be a disappointing thing to learn after the fact. It really doesn't matter to me and how I shoot but I am certain it does to others.

As far as I know, all Voigtländer lenses for Pentax have been PKA mount and act like A - lenses. They have all the functionality you need for metering in whatever mode you chose.
'Chipped' is for Nikon mount lenses where the SLI versions act like Ai-S lenses and can only be used in Aperture priority or Manual. No Shutter priority here since you have to set the aperture with the ring on the lens. The chipped SLII lenses act like Ai-P where you get all metering modes available.

les3547 · 07-22-2011, 11:44 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Bart

As far as I know, all Voigtländer lenses for Pentax have been PKA mount and act like A - lenses. They have all the functionality you need for metering in whatever mode you chose.

Right, at least both of my SLI lenses behave exactly as the SLII lenses.

The one possible exception is that the SLI lenses I have (VL75 and VL180) seem to over-expose more than the SLII lenses. I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I want to test in a controlled setting using all three metering modes, and all the VL lenses.

Bart · 07-23-2011, 04:50 AM

I have only used SLI lenses but I never noticed a tendency to over-expose.
I'm curious to the outcome of your tests.

excanonfd · 07-23-2011, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by Frogfish

A DKL to M42 is only around $30...

Where? I bought one last year for more than $45.00 and it was the cheapest price I could find at the time. If I could get one for $30.00, I wouldn't mind buying a couple of them.

Thanks,

Frogfish · 07-24-2011, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by excanonfd

Where? I bought one last year for more than $45.00 and it was the cheapest price I could find at the time. If I could get one for $30.00, I wouldn't mind buying a couple of them.

Thanks,

I'm afraid I mean in the local camera market over here in Shanghai !

Frogfish · 07-25-2011, 10:55 AM

Yep. Agree with all that Les (and would like Leica R included too) !

rhe · 07-25-2011, 11:07 AM

Yes I agree with Les and Frogfish.

A lens club thread to include Voigtlander, Zeiss, and Contax LBA (possibly also Leica R ) would be of interest to me.

kanzlr · 07-25-2011, 11:11 AM

Voigtländer was founded in Austria, btw

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07-21-2011, 10:49 PM	#571
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	Originally posted by Frogfish I think I'll have to see if I can find the VLII58/1.4 and take some shots side by side with VLI50/1.8 (which I love). I look forward to that. Originally posted by Frogfish Those DKL mount Voigtlander 135mm f4.0 Super-Dynarex go for around US$100 over here with the 2.8 versions around US$150. The f4.0 look much nicer though with the silver banding The 200/4 goes for US$200-400 when you can find them. There's even a Skopagon 40/2 if you have SU$1,000 to spare ! Thanks for the info Kevin. I can't seem to find out if the Super Bessematic Dynarex uses a DKL mount, or if I have to grind it first to fit the adapter, as is shown in that link I gave you. Nobody selling them seems to bother to describe the Bessematic mount type. Do you know?

07-22-2011, 06:54 AM	#572
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Les. I think if you read through this thread it should answer your question : Bessamatic / Ultramatic mount lens

07-22-2011, 07:40 AM	#573
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	Originally posted by Frogfish Les. I think if you read through this thread it should answer your question : Bessamatic / Ultramatic mount lens Thanks so much Kevin, sounds like more VL lenses are available for Pentax than I realized!

07-22-2011, 08:43 AM	#575
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	Interesting light Mika, were the clouds/sky really green or is that how the Ultron rendered them?

07-22-2011, 08:46 AM	#576
Bart Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: WW community of Pentax users Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,646	Originally posted by jurysi ...I don't like the idea of comparing lenses and prefer to let them stand on their own, but I'm curious how the 75 would compare generally the the 77 limited. I believe you can find a nice comparison in this thread.

07-22-2011, 09:08 AM	#577
mika. Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 161	Originally posted by les3547 Interesting light Mika, were the clouds/sky really green or is that how the Ultron rendered them? Neither. The turquoise clouds are basically a side effect of me playing around with various filters for dramatic effect.

07-22-2011, 11:05 AM - 1 Like	#578
Bart Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: WW community of Pentax users Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,646	Originally posted by snipenekkid If you use matrix metering remember to make sure the copy you are being offered is the SLII version as they are chipped to allow matrix metering. Not sure how much of a difference it makes but would be a disappointing thing to learn after the fact. It really doesn't matter to me and how I shoot but I am certain it does to others. As far as I know, all Voigtländer lenses for Pentax have been PKA mount and act like A - lenses. They have all the functionality you need for metering in whatever mode you chose. 'Chipped' is for Nikon mount lenses where the SLI versions act like Ai-S lenses and can only be used in Aperture priority or Manual. No Shutter priority here since you have to set the aperture with the ring on the lens. The chipped SLII lenses act like Ai-P where you get all metering modes available.

07-22-2011, 11:44 AM - 1 Like	#579
les3547 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sebastopol, California Photos: Albums Posts: 2,020	Originally posted by Bart As far as I know, all Voigtländer lenses for Pentax have been PKA mount and act like A - lenses. They have all the functionality you need for metering in whatever mode you chose. Right, at least both of my SLI lenses behave exactly as the SLII lenses. The one possible exception is that the SLI lenses I have (VL75 and VL180) seem to over-expose more than the SLII lenses. I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I want to test in a controlled setting using all three metering modes, and all the VL lenses.

07-23-2011, 04:50 AM	#580
Bart Pentaxian Join Date: May 2007 Location: WW community of Pentax users Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,646	I have only used SLI lenses but I never noticed a tendency to over-expose. I'm curious to the outcome of your tests.

07-23-2011, 10:14 PM	#581
excanonfd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,421	Originally posted by Frogfish A DKL to M42 is only around $30... Where? I bought one last year for more than $45.00 and it was the cheapest price I could find at the time. If I could get one for $30.00, I wouldn't mind buying a couple of them. Thanks,

07-24-2011, 01:04 AM	#582
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Originally posted by excanonfd Where? I bought one last year for more than $45.00 and it was the cheapest price I could find at the time. If I could get one for $30.00, I wouldn't mind buying a couple of them. Thanks, I'm afraid I mean in the local camera market over here in Shanghai !

07-25-2011, 10:55 AM	#583
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Yep. Agree with all that Les (and would like Leica R included too) !

07-25-2011, 11:07 AM	#584
rhe Closed Account Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 271	Yes I agree with Les and Frogfish. A lens club thread to include Voigtlander, Zeiss, and Contax LBA (possibly also Leica R ) would be of interest to me.

07-25-2011, 11:11 AM	#585
kanzlr Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Vienna Posts: 92	Voigtländer was founded in Austria, btw

Voigtländer LBA - post your pics, notes and thoughts.

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