[iheiramo]

Oh wow, just oh wow. I'm a big fan of traditional sailing ships. That's an unbelievable fleet together in one place.

I've seen them earlier in Helsinki, but there they are spread into a larger area. In Turku all ships are parked on a Aura river which flows thru the city and the sight is really something else.

[repaap]

Here is couple flower shots with M 75-150 and K-1

[wkraus]

There has been one 120 on sale for some time here in Finland in the same shop where I got 85. Actually tried to get both at the same time, but wasn't satisfied in what they offered for DA50 and M100. I had thought to wait until I had sold 100 before I buy the 120, but maybe I need to reconsider the tactic. I had not taken rarity into consideration.

For ones Finnish post was a positive surprise. I ordered the lens in Friday and it arrived already on Saturday. I wasn't expecting it until next week. Had to go out shooting

All Shots K5 and M85/2:

Lovely shots! Would you consider posting a few comparison shots of the same subjects with M85 and M100? I'd be most interested to see the difference.

[iheiramo]

Lovely shots! Would you consider posting a few comparison shots of the same subjects with M85 and M100? I'd be most interested to see the difference.

Yes, I can take comparison shots and post here. I'll get back to it later.

K5 M85/2 wide open:

[repaap]

Here is couple with M 75-150

[p4trick]

Here is couple flower shots with M 75-150 and K-1

Your second shot is magnificent, colors flares, mood - just great!

[repaap]

Your second shot is magnificent, colors flares, mood - just great!

Thank you

[iheiramo]

Here are few shots for comparison. I used K5 with M85/2 and K30 with M100/2.8. All shots on ISO100. Adjusted white balance to be the same and on some cases adjusted exposure a bit to make shots as equal as possible. In one shot I also I used HDR slide to cut down highlights as sun started to shine and could not get equal shots. Full resolution in links. I tell the order of the shots below so you can judge blind (is that correct way to phrase it?) if you like.

The Flower: F4, 1/200 hand held, minimum focus distance on both lenses.




Fallen Tree: F8, 1/25 on tripod, fixed distance.




The Garden: F16, 1/25 on tripod, Focus on infinity.




In flower shot the lenses are quite hard to tell apart. In the Garden shot the difference in sharpness is most visible.

Order of the shots:
M100
M85
M100
M85
M85
M100

[wkraus]

Yes, I can take comparison shots and post here. I'll get back to it later.

K5 M85/2 wide open:

Thank you!

[wkraus]

Here are few shots for comparison. I used K5 with M85/2 and K30 with M100/2.8. All shots on ISO100. Adjusted white balance to be the same and on some cases adjusted exposure a bit to make shots as equal as possible. In one shot I also I used HDR slide to cut down highlights as sun started to shine and could not get equal shots. Full resolution in links. I tell the order of the shots below so you can judge blind (is that correct way to phrase it?) if you like.

The Flower: F4, 1/200 hand held, minimum focus distance on both lenses.




Fallen Tree: F8, 1/25 on tripod, fixed distance.




The Garden: F16, 1/25 on tripod, Focus on infinity.




In flower shot the lenses are quite hard to tell apart. In the Garden shot the difference in sharpness is most visible.

Order of the shots:
M100
M85
M100
M85
M85
M100

Thanks again, very interesting! I agree there is not a big difference between the flower shots. M100 is a little darker; even after changing that in Photoshop M85 appears a little more saturated. In the garden shot the light has changed a lot, so it is difficult to draw conclusions. What I learned from my own experience is that you can never trust the infinity setting. This applies to both lenses and cameras (I have access to two Pentax bodies that do not really reach infinity focus with lenses that I am sure are not out of adjustment). On the whole I would not say that M100 results are visibly "flatter" than M85.

Edit: I just noticed you used different cameras for the comparison, so that might also account for the small difference in saturation. Both lenses are quite nice I would say.

[iheiramo]

Edit: I just noticed you used different cameras for the comparison, so that might also account for the small difference in saturation. Both lenses are quite nice I would say.

Cameras share the same sensor, but noted also the difference in darkness of the lenses, so I took one comparison shot with just one camera body. I used same adjusts on both lenses and 85 came out clearly lighter or maybe it would be right way to say that there is less contrast in 85. I lowered the exposure of 85 shot by -0,4 in post to place most of the histograms in same positions, but the highlights of 85 are lower at that point. Therefore I'd say that difference is more due to lenses than camera body's.

100 is a good lens and has nice rendition, but not quite as sharp as 85, 50 or 300. In simple scenarios and good light, like the flower shot, it performs well. If there is a lot of small detail, especially with strong contrast, then the 100 struggles and results in somewhat smeary shot which doesn't quite reach the 3D feeling I've come to expect from M's. On the other hand there is more PF in 85 and it's 2,5-3 times more expensive. It seems that the reason why I haven't been satisfied with 100 is just that sometimes I have used it in unfavorable situations.

All Shots with K5 and M85/2:

The candle in daylight


The candle in nighttime


Portrait

[jcdoss]

Ratatouille at The Farmhouse, KCMO
K1 & M28/2

[iheiramo]

Both shots with K30 and M85/2 with full set of extension tubes:

[wkraus]

Both shots with K30 and M85/2 with full set of extension tubes:

Lovely shots, thanks for sharing!

[repaap]

Here is couple more with M 75-150(one of my favorites now...temted to upgrade this lens to 70-200, but which one...it is that this is dirt cheap for what it is)