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11-19-2019, 11:27 PM - 1 Like   #7696
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
The M 200 f4 has some interesting bokeh wide open... my son playing soccer. SOOC from K-S1.
Wide open bokeh and transition is really good on that lens and it doesn't loose too much of it's sharpness. I found its wide open performance one of its best features.

Lovely shot.

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November Single In Challenge 2019 with K1ii & M50/2

20th

Abstract of the day.

K1ii M50/2 ISO800 f2 1/45 1" extension tube:



And MFD without tubes:

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Few more with K1ii and M50/2 from that one sunny November day last week:









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SMC-M 50mm f/1.4.

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QuoteOriginally posted by iheiramo Quote
Wide open bokeh and transition is really good on that lens and it doesn't loose too much of it's sharpness. I found its wide open performance one of its best features.

Lovely shot.
Thank you!

I find it acceptably sharp wide open, and what softness there is, is actually very pleasing to portrait subjects. In the same way the K 50 1.2 and M 100 2.8 are, just not quite as sharp. But acceptably so. And just as flattering as the previous lenses, which speaks a lot. I love lenses that make you go "wow, that looks really good!" as a first reaction - before checking for details or pixel peeping...

I'm very positively surprised by the M 200 f4. I thought I'd get rid of it soon because the SMC-A 70-210mm f4 has sent lenses packing that had much better reputation. But it's staying as the "look" of the pictures is totally worth it and I generally like the pictures better than the ones I get from the A zoom, regardless of sharpness or aberration control. Part of it could be that I think out of all the Pentax series, the M series is the one I like the most (and my K 50 1.2 to me is equivalent to an "M" lens - I have the 2nd version that came out in the M era, has the M style barrel and aesthetics including the fonts, and possibly has M era coatings - I don't have a first-generation K 50 1.2 to compare, but the coating reflections don't look much different than other M lenses.
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Few more with K1ii and M50/2 from that one sunny November day last week:









You're making me want this lens. And shouldn't want any more lenses, 22 is already too much. And I have 6 50mm lenses and one 55mm!

I've read that the microcontrast and color rendering stopped down to f8 is the best of ALL the pentax 50mm lenses - including the 50 1.2 versions! I'm starting to believe it...
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You're making me want this lens. And shouldn't want any more lenses, 22 is already too much. And I have 6 50mm lenses and one 55mm!

I've read that the microcontrast and color rendering stopped down to f8 is the best of ALL the pentax 50mm lenses - including the 50 1.2 versions! I'm starting to believe it...
I cheat. I've been boosting colors more than I have had to do with other M lenses. Also I purposefully under expose all shots to retain colors. To me this lens has always felt like cheap copy of f1.7 in every way. I undestand in historical perspective why these were common back in the days, but nowadays f1.7's are so cheap that in my opinion there's really not much room left for this. One could pick this up for 20 to test what old manual lenses are like, but otherwise f1.7 in the bag is better choice. Not to bash f2 too harshly, I want to point out that clearly it's better than a lot of lenses out there, but f1.7 is the best bang for the buck

I'm going to ditch f2 after the month. Probably give it to someone, as it's not worth the trouble of selling it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
I find it acceptably sharp wide open, and what softness there is, is actually very pleasing to portrait subjects. In the same way the K 50 1.2 and M 100 2.8 are, just not quite as sharp. But acceptably so. And just as flattering as the previous lenses, which speaks a lot. I love lenses that make you go "wow, that looks really good!" as a first reaction - before checking for details or pixel peeping...
Maybe the right way would've been to say that it doesn't get much sharper stopped down

I got myself Tak 200/3.5 last spring to substitute M200 as it's sharper lens and 18 blades great some special OOF highlights. But colors and bokeh are rendered very differently, so I might have to keep both
I still have my FF SIC month to go with M200. So far larger sencor has been magical when has limited sharpness and I've been shooting a lot more wide open than with APSC bodies, so I'm really interested to see how it works.

If interested, I post my Tak shots in 200mm lens thread.

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QuoteOriginally posted by iheiramo Quote
I cheat. I've been boosting colors more than I have had to do with other M lenses. Also I purposefully under expose all shots to retain colors. To me this lens has always felt like cheap copy of f1.7 in every way. I undestand in historical perspective why these were common back in the days, but nowadays f1.7's are so cheap that in my opinion there's really not much room left for this. One could pick this up for 20 to test what old manual lenses are like, but otherwise f1.7 in the bag is better choice. Not to bash f2 too harshly, I want to point out that clearly it's better than a lot of lenses out there, but f1.7 is the best bang for the buck

I'm going to ditch f2 after the month. Probably give it to someone, as it's not worth the trouble of selling it.
Ah, I'm glad you said that. I was going by some of the reviews. They though that at small apertures it had more color and punch than even the 50 1.2 models (!!) and a more 3D look than the other 50s. I already have 2 1.7 (M and F) lenses, two 1.4 (M and a Rikenon) and a 1.2 (K) so I'm sure I don't need it
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I already have 2 1.7 (M and F) lenses, two 1.4 (M and a Rikenon) and a 1.2 (K) so I'm sure I don't need it
I agree.

I love M135 for its exceptional 3D rendering. I haven't seen anything like it on M50/2.
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Slight threadjack because the last few replies have me thinking; which would you rather have for portrait work, the M 100 f2.8 or the M 120 f2.8? I'm starting to think about a wish list to keep when looking for bargains and those two lenses interest me a lot (also the Samyang 135 f2 but that's more money and bigger in the bag).
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Slight threadjack because the last few replies have me thinking; which would you rather have for portrait work, the M 100 f2.8 or the M 120 f2.8? I'm starting to think about a wish list to keep when looking for bargains and those two lenses interest me a lot (also the Samyang 135 f2 but that's more money and bigger in the bag).
I have only had the M 100 2.8 but it would be highly recommended... I heard the M 120 2.8 is fantastic as well, and I also heard that the older K 105 2.8 is better than either of them!

I'd say you can't go wrong with any of them if you find a good deal... the differences are probably splitting hairs.
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Slight threadjack because the last few replies have me thinking; which would you rather have for portrait work, the M 100 f2.8 or the M 120 f2.8? I'm starting to think about a wish list to keep when looking for bargains and those two lenses interest me a lot (also the Samyang 135 f2 but that's more money and bigger in the bag).
M120 definitely, if you can find it. It's clearly the better of the two. They are similar lenses in rendering and usage, so easy to compare.
I never use M100/2.8. It was my first tele lens from M series and I wasn't completely pleased with it and started looking for substitutes and ended up with M85 and M120 instead. This was before I decided to go all in M series for SIC purposes.

But you could also consider M135. It's not as sharp as M120, but it has better 3D rendering. I sometimes use it instead of M120 for close up. Sometimes rendering feels more important than sharpness
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November Single In Challenge 2019 with K1ii & M50/2

21st - Selfie theme

Traditional hand held selfie for the theme. Arm length is just enough for 50 on FF. Sorry about high ISO. I was right by the window, but it's just so dark even at midday.

K1ii M50/2 ISO3200 f2.8 1/250:


I think this is my 25th month in SIC. During this year I've finally learned to relax when on the wrong side of camera and nowadays can even fake facial expressions. I remember how uncomfortable I was with selfie theme in the beginning, but now it's actually quite fun to have it in calendar. Next step is to learn to pose when it's not just an head shot
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QuoteOriginally posted by iheiramo Quote
Few more with K1ii and M50/2 from that one sunny November day last week:
These are very crisp, really loving the shots!
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