The M Club!

**Canada_Rockies** · 04-30-2020, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by iheiramo

One more done. Four to go. The end of my adventures in M primes is getting near and faster than I anticipated when I decided to shoot them thru in Challenge. I expected to keep more off months in between. Now 34 months daily shooting in 3 years looks realistic.

This ain't no modern lens. Wide open is clearly softer than f2, vignetting is severe and doesn't offer corner to corner sharpness. The rendering and bokeh are often worth shooting wide open even at the cost of sharpness. Also to my surprice the best landscape of the month was taken wide open. It gave special rendering and feeling to the shot which I seem to like a lot

I think f1.7 will remain my go to fifty, but wide open performance and qualities in low light portraits (which I didn't put thru test this month) will keep reason enough to keep this lens. At least until I get DFA*50 or one of the f1.2's, but can't see myself putting down that much money in foreseeable future.

A useful analysis, IH, accompanied by a nice group of examples. I'm enjoying your SIC journeys.

**iheiramo** · 04-30-2020, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

A useful analysis, IH, accompanied by a nice group of examples. I'm enjoying your SIC journeys.

Thanks

It has been fun and educating ride.

_jimiphotography · 05-01-2020, 12:48 AM - **10 Likes**

SMC-M 50mm f1.4 wide open

**iheiramo** · 05-01-2020, 10:58 AM - **2 Likes**

So today I tried to get comfortable with M120 I'm shooting this month.

Wide open:

1 step down:

Pixelshift at f8:

Wide open sharpness is the questionable feature with this lens. One step down and it gets a lot sharper, so this is excellent f4 lens

Maybe the widest aperture could've been bit slower, if that would have given better wide open performance. On the other hand wide open can be viewed as soft lens feature. We'll see if I use it as often with this lens as I have been shooting with M100/2.8 and M150/3.5 earlier this year.

jcdoss · 05-01-2020, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by iheiramo

We'll see if I use it as often with this lens

So are you approaching your SIC shots with manually bracketed apertures?

**iheiramo** · 05-01-2020, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by jcdoss

So are you approaching your SIC shots with manually bracketed apertures?

Sorry, I don't quite catch what you mean. Mainly don't understand meaning of bracketed in this case.

There are days when I set camera on desired aperture I want test and shoot thru the session with that aperture. Some days I set camera on tripod and shoot thru a set of apertures and look in post which work the target of the day. This happens only when I know the target I want to shoot. Then there are days when I behave like a normal person and chance the aperture during the shooting.

Arjay Bee · 05-01-2020, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by iheiramo

don't understand meaning of bracketed

Bracketing is a semi automatic function where you set the camera to take usually three images at one press of the shutter button. One at what you or auto exposure thinks the aperture is optimal and then one image under that and then one over that exposure. The order of the three images can be set and the amount of over exposure and under exposure can be preset in stops or fractions of stops. It was a way of insuring you get the shot at the decisive moment when you cant chimp and adjust. Not uised so much now as people can chimp and correct as they go or correct in pp.

Jorgario · 05-02-2020, 12:53 PM - **6 Likes**

K-1 + M 35 / 2:

Jorgario · 05-03-2020, 02:58 PM - **9 Likes**

Same lens and same scenario:

**paulh** · 05-04-2020, 10:04 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Jorgario

Same lens and same scenario:

Nice shooting, Jorge!

**iheiramo** · 05-04-2020, 10:19 AM - **1 Like**

15 shots Brenizer with M120 wide open:

**Canada_Rockies** · 05-04-2020, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by iheiramo

15 shots Brenizer with M120 wide open:

You must really be bored to work with Brenizer images. I'm not at all sure that the subject was the most scenic, but you did nice work.

**iheiramo** · 05-04-2020, 12:23 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

You must really be bored to work with Brenizer images. I'm not at all sure that the subject was the most scenic, but you did nice work.

Actually I made one at f4 before and was interested to try wide open. That one step does make a big difference in sharpness, but it doesn't seem to matter in Brenizer. And that place is special to me, as I spent there so much time in summers, so I'm quite fond of those rusty worn out containers

Brenizer from 12 shots at f4 with M120:

**Canada_Rockies** · 05-04-2020, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by iheiramo

Actually I made one at f4 before and was interested to try wide open. That one step does make a big difference in sharpness, but it doesn't seem to matter in Brenizer. And that place is special to me, as I spent there so much time in summers, so I'm quite fond of those rusty worn out containers

Brenizer from 12 shots at f4 with M120:

Very nice. I love walking paths such as that one.

Jorgario · 05-04-2020, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by paulh

Nice shooting, Jorge!

Thanks Paul !

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04-30-2020, 08:24 AM	#8101
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by iheiramo One more done. Four to go. The end of my adventures in M primes is getting near and faster than I anticipated when I decided to shoot them thru in Challenge. I expected to keep more off months in between. Now 34 months daily shooting in 3 years looks realistic. This ain't no modern lens. Wide open is clearly softer than f2, vignetting is severe and doesn't offer corner to corner sharpness. The rendering and bokeh are often worth shooting wide open even at the cost of sharpness. Also to my surprice the best landscape of the month was taken wide open. It gave special rendering and feeling to the shot which I seem to like a lot I think f1.7 will remain my go to fifty, but wide open performance and qualities in low light portraits (which I didn't put thru test this month) will keep reason enough to keep this lens. At least until I get DFA*50 or one of the f1.2's, but can't see myself putting down that much money in foreseeable future. A useful analysis, IH, accompanied by a nice group of examples. I'm enjoying your SIC journeys.

04-30-2020, 08:54 AM	#8102
iheiramo Unoriginal Poster Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Espoo Photos: Albums Posts: 3,182	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies A useful analysis, IH, accompanied by a nice group of examples. I'm enjoying your SIC journeys. Thanks It has been fun and educating ride.

05-01-2020, 12:48 AM - 10 Likes	#8103
_jimiphotography New Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Photos: Albums Posts: 8	SMC-M 50mm f1.4 wide open

05-01-2020, 10:58 AM - 2 Likes	#8104
iheiramo Unoriginal Poster Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Espoo Photos: Albums Posts: 3,182	So today I tried to get comfortable with M120 I'm shooting this month. Wide open: 1 step down: Pixelshift at f8: Wide open sharpness is the questionable feature with this lens. One step down and it gets a lot sharper, so this is excellent f4 lens Maybe the widest aperture could've been bit slower, if that would have given better wide open performance. On the other hand wide open can be viewed as soft lens feature. We'll see if I use it as often with this lens as I have been shooting with M100/2.8 and M150/3.5 earlier this year.

05-01-2020, 02:44 PM	#8105
jcdoss Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ingelheim am Rhein, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,768	Originally posted by iheiramo We'll see if I use it as often with this lens So are you approaching your SIC shots with manually bracketed apertures?

05-01-2020, 03:05 PM	#8106
iheiramo Unoriginal Poster Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Espoo Photos: Albums Posts: 3,182	Originally posted by jcdoss So are you approaching your SIC shots with manually bracketed apertures? Sorry, I don't quite catch what you mean. Mainly don't understand meaning of bracketed in this case. There are days when I set camera on desired aperture I want test and shoot thru the session with that aperture. Some days I set camera on tripod and shoot thru a set of apertures and look in post which work the target of the day. This happens only when I know the target I want to shoot. Then there are days when I behave like a normal person and chance the aperture during the shooting.

05-01-2020, 09:21 PM	#8107
Arjay Bee Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Horn Island, Torres Straits, Q Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,715	Originally posted by iheiramo don't understand meaning of bracketed Bracketing is a semi automatic function where you set the camera to take usually three images at one press of the shutter button. One at what you or auto exposure thinks the aperture is optimal and then one image under that and then one over that exposure. The order of the three images can be set and the amount of over exposure and under exposure can be preset in stops or fractions of stops. It was a way of insuring you get the shot at the decisive moment when you cant chimp and adjust. Not uised so much now as people can chimp and correct as they go or correct in pp.

05-02-2020, 12:53 PM - 6 Likes	#8108
Jorgario Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San José Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,769	K-1 + M 35 / 2:

05-03-2020, 02:58 PM - 9 Likes	#8109
Jorgario Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San José Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,769	Same lens and same scenario:

05-04-2020, 10:04 AM - 1 Like	#8110
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,258	Originally posted by Jorgario Same lens and same scenario: Nice shooting, Jorge!

05-04-2020, 10:19 AM - 1 Like	#8111
iheiramo Unoriginal Poster Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Espoo Photos: Albums Posts: 3,182	15 shots Brenizer with M120 wide open:

05-04-2020, 10:53 AM	#8112
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by iheiramo 15 shots Brenizer with M120 wide open: You must really be bored to work with Brenizer images. I'm not at all sure that the subject was the most scenic, but you did nice work.

05-04-2020, 12:23 PM - 4 Likes	#8113
iheiramo Unoriginal Poster Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Espoo Photos: Albums Posts: 3,182	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies You must really be bored to work with Brenizer images. I'm not at all sure that the subject was the most scenic, but you did nice work. Actually I made one at f4 before and was interested to try wide open. That one step does make a big difference in sharpness, but it doesn't seem to matter in Brenizer. And that place is special to me, as I spent there so much time in summers, so I'm quite fond of those rusty worn out containers Brenizer from 12 shots at f4 with M120:

05-04-2020, 01:04 PM	#8114
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by iheiramo Actually I made one at f4 before and was interested to try wide open. That one step does make a big difference in sharpness, but it doesn't seem to matter in Brenizer. And that place is special to me, as I spent there so much time in summers, so I'm quite fond of those rusty worn out containers Brenizer from 12 shots at f4 with M120: Very nice. I love walking paths such as that one.

05-04-2020, 06:54 PM	#8115
Jorgario Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San José Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,769	Originally posted by paulh Nice shooting, Jorge! Thanks Paul !

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