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12-05-2009, 01:36 PM   #1201
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Thanks for the comments. The M85mm F2 seems like a wonderful lens. Wide open it's great for portraits or flowers. It sharpens up dramatically at F2.8, F3.5 and F4. The difference is really huge. So, in many ways this lens is very different from my other m-lenses which sharpen up just a little when stopping down.

I used the 85mm F2 at a concert last night (pics later). I tried using it wide open but it's too soft for that. The details on the instruments were mushy.
However, at F2.8 it's more than sharp enough and I am very happy with that!

So, I guess F2 on this lens should be used for a spesific kind of portraits or when you want a dreamy soft expression.

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Are you sure the softness you saw at f/2 in the concert shots wasn't just a question of focus? DOF at 85mm and f/2 is extremely shallow; I'd be surprised if any instrument except maybe a harmonica allowed you to get the face and instrument both in focus.

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Marc, you're right. In some of the F2 pics there's a lack of DOF. I moved closer to the stage a couple of minutes in the second part of the concert, and when typing in the approx distance in Dofmaster I get a total DOF of 25cm.

When looking at the pics taken from a longer distance the F2 shots look okay, but there's definetely a jump in sharpness when stopping down to F2.8. The longest distance was approx 15 meters which gave 2.5 meters of DOF, and that should be more than enough for a portrait + instrument.

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Here's a photo I took today with my M50 F1.4:



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A couple more from the M135/3.5:


K200D, f/3.5, 1/60", ISO 2200 (equivalent)


K200D, f/3.5, 1/30", ISO 4000 (equivalent)
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m lens goes to the rally (again) :)

the m 75-150/4 strikes again. last rally of the season

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Nice capture, nice panning - great use of the most under-appreciated Pentax lens, and a really nice Subaru.

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thank you monochrome. that underapreciated pentax lens has become, funny enough, my main rally shooting glass, mainly because it's damn sharp wide open, and you really need a zoom for this kind of shooting (the 50-200 is great, but being used by the other photographer "in the family"; as far as optics, amazingly, the old smc-m is better). and yeah, nice subaru, it sure makes me drool
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QuoteOriginally posted by nanok Quote
thank you monochrome. that underapreciated pentax lens has become, funny enough, my main rally shooting glass, mainly because it's damn sharp wide open, and you really need a zoom for this kind of shooting (the 50-200 is great, but being used by the other photographer "in the family"; as far as optics, amazingly, the old smc-m is better). and yeah, nice subaru, it sure makes me drool
I had the lens and I sold it - more's the pity. Never mistrust your first instinct.

I almost bought the car - I was at the dealer and they had one on the lot - but in a fit of adult responsibility I got my wife an Outback instead.
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the nice thing about subarus is that you can hardly go wrong. i never drove the outback, but i hear they drive quite well, you still feel there's the awd working, and the drivetrain is almost the same. the weight distribution is different, of course, but it still feels like a subaru. and there's the flat four rumbling under the hood, so how can you go wrong?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
A couple more from the M135/3.5:


K200D, f/3.5, 1/60", ISO 2200 (equivalent)

K200D, f/3.5, 1/30", ISO 4000 (equivalent)
Those are great shots.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Recercare Quote
Marc, you're right. In some of the F2 pics there's a lack of DOF. I moved closer to the stage a couple of minutes in the second part of the concert, and when typing in the approx distance in Dofmaster I get a total DOF of 25cm.

When looking at the pics taken from a longer distance the F2 shots look okay, but there's definetely a jump in sharpness when stopping down to F2.8. The longest distance was approx 15 meters which gave 2.5 meters of DOF, and that should be more than enough for a portrait + instrument.

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Lars, I've found the M 85 f/2 to be more than good wide-open. It is very hard to nail focus with an 85mm lens at f/2.

Below are some tests I did a couple days ago, comparing the M 85 f/2 to the 77ltd and Nikon 85 1.8 at f/2:

77ltd at f/1.8



M 85 wide-open
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the nice thing about subarus is that you can hardly go wrong. i never drove the outback, but i hear they drive quite well, you still feel there's the awd working, and the drivetrain is almost the same. the weight distribution is different, of course, but it still feels like a subaru. and there's the flat four rumbling under the hood, so how can you go wrong?
They are wonderful cars - solid, dependable, last forever and have a personality. If you think the four is a kick you should drive the 244hp Boxer 6. When you load the Outback with children and packs, add canoes on the Yakima Rack and start up a Colorado mountain pass you will appreciate the smooth power.
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Below are some tests I did a couple days ago, comparing the M 85 f/2 to the 77ltd and Nikon 85 1.8 at f/2:

77ltd at f/1.8
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M 85 wide-open
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Wow, I can "see" why you like the M85/2!
Maybe my monitor is faking me out but it sure seems that the M85 resolves the text clearer that the FA 77 Limited.


forgot to add: Jay - I don't think you need the FA 77 anymore - how about you sell it to me? :-)

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Lars, I've found the M 85 f/2 to be more than good wide-open. It is very hard to nail focus with an 85mm lens at f/2.

Below are some tests I did a couple days ago, comparing the M 85 f/2 to the 77ltd and Nikon 85 1.8 at f/2:

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Yes, it could be due to poor focusing. I really need to get a split prism!

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