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05-06-2015, 05:50 PM   #16
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Hopefully will have some shots this weekend to post! My lens just got delivered and is waiting at home for me.
Looking forward to that !

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If someone has also the bigma 50-500 I would like to see how these lenses compare at the long end not only at picture quality, but also what's their difference in magnification! It is said that the bigma is not reaching 500mm but actually is quite shorter, so this comparison would be very interesting!
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@ redpit: that would be interesting indeed as long as the Bigma shots don't end up here in this thread !
Follow the link provided by Weevil above and I am sure you will eventually see some comparative shots there.

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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
Looking forward to that !

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@ redpit: that would be interesting indeed as long as the Bigma shots don't end up here in this thread !
Follow the link provided by Weevil above and I am sure you will eventually see some comparative shots there.

JP
@Weevil and JPZK Thank you! I will have a look at that thread. I didn't know I could find comparative shots there ;-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by vcollerp Quote
Ok JP as requested, did not see this tread.(Cross posted from the news and rumors section)















Did you have to calibrate the lens at all or this is just straight out of the box? Was playing my way into work this am and it looks like I may need to do a little fiddling which is not a big deal since I calibrate all my lenses anyways ...
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Post your pictures taken with the new HD PENTAX-D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6 ED DC AW
here !!

Looking forward to this !

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Happy to move my thread over here to post some comparison pics.


Background; I shot fixed focus targets first and hated the results. No way I could make a buy decision from the charts so I dumped them and lined up my
- sigma 500/4.5,
- da*300 + HD 1.4x TC
- D FA150-450mm with and w/o the HD 1.4x TC


These pics were selected from about 100 as most representing how each of the above combos could shoot a blackbird. Tried to keep focus on the head while showing light on feathers for detail. Tripod mounts only, Tav mode at 500-800 to keep motion blur down, iso a little high due to shadows but the results fall in line. I have other subjects to post later with closeups and using the full 150-450 range. Hope this is helpful.


The Sigma 500 and da*300+TC were only shot at f8, the 150-450 was all f6.3 except for a single wide-open (f5.6) shot that I feel really demonstrates a strength of this lens; its sharp wide open at 450mm.


Pics are jpg, totally unprocessed except for the pixel-peeping 100% crops. Most all jpg options were turned off (lens correction, AWB, SR).






NOTE; pic names indicate as follows...420xxxx is the da*300+1.4x TC, 450xxxx is the D FA150-450 at 450mm, 500xxxx is the Sigma 500/4.5 and 640xxxx is the D FA glass with the HD 1.4x TC (it focuses quite smoothly as a comb although the IQ suffers). Second post will include remainder of the blackbird batch.

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remainder of blackbird comparison....


Anybody wishing full-sized copies instead of these really compressed versions just send me a PM.

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Damn, I apologize. didn't know the file names would not be visible. Suggestions on better way to do this welcome. Until then, the posted exif gives you the "code" in the form of the focal length.
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remainder of blackbird comparison....


Anybody wishing full-sized copies instead of these really compressed versions just send me a PM.

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Damn, I apologize. didn't know the file names would not be visible. Suggestions on better way to do this welcome. Until then, the posted exif gives you the "code" in the form of the focal length.
Thanks for the samples !
Very kind of you to take the time to post them all.

I would dare saying that the images taken with the 150-450 are "the best" !?
Maybe it is the way I see them but I think this new zoom proves to be in a class of its own.

Cheers!
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Wow...the DFA 150-450mm is absolutely gorgeous. Clearly the winner in my eyes. Gee....now i'm going to have to sell 4 or 5 lenses to purchase one
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QuoteOriginally posted by imtheguy Quote

NOTE; pic names indicate as follows...420xxxx is the da*300+1.4x TC, 450xxxx is the D FA150-450 at 450mm, 500xxxx is the Sigma 500/4.5 and 640xxxx is the D FA glass with the HD 1.4x TC (it focuses quite smoothly as a comb although the IQ suffers). Second post will include remainder of the blackbird batch.
Those 150-450 pic look terrific, I'm surprised its outperforming the EX 500/f4.5, a lens that more than twice the price. Please keep shooting and posting more pictures as you go. -Regards

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Suggestions on better way to do this welcome.
The simple way is best - just put a line of text in your post under each image you insert that shows the EXIF basics - lens name, focal length, aperture, ISO, plus TC ON/OFF.
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For those with the K3/K3II and the 150-450 lens:

Do you find that TAv works better than your previous gear, for instance I am using TAv with the K5 +DA*300/4 ... serves me well.

Curious how you may be able to compare using this setting with "the new gear" .
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I'm not sure. It looks a little soft @ 640 using the TC. I think I'll have to pass. /joking

Seriously, first thank you for taking the time to post these and second, WOW.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
The simple way is best - just put a line of text in your post under each image you insert that shows the EXIF basics - lens name, focal length, aperture, ISO, plus TC ON/OFF.

unfortunately I had 10 to post so used the Manage Attachments option which let me upload and resize all 10 but lost the names. This ignorance comes from not posting pics for a year.

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picked up the lens this morning, so these are the first shots. Lens isn't calibrated yet. Don't think i need it anyway. Its a beast!
IMO it works better and cleaner then the da*300 + tc. AF buttons are wonderful !!!

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QuoteOriginally posted by jpzk Quote
For those with the K3/K3II and the 150-450 lens:

Do you find that TAv works better than your previous gear, for instance I am using TAv with the K5 +DA*300/4 ... serves me well.

Curious how you may be able to compare using this setting with "the new gear" .
I do mostly birding so Tav is my normal tele mode. Today I hope to compare AFC mode and speed between the da*300 and the spiffy new FA150-450 @300mm. If anything jumps out I will update this thread tonight.

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I'm not sure. It looks a little soft @ 640 using the TC. I think I'll have to pass. /joking

Seriously, first thank you for taking the time to post these and second, WOW.

Yes, all of the shots with a TC were obviously lower IQ than without. I have no doubt there. If the samples did not demonstrate that well enough that's the fault of the poster....me. I use a TC on my best primes with great results in the past (da*300, A*400/2.8 and Sigma 500/4.5) but never found a zoom that could keep up.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Stavri Quote
Those 150-450 pic look terrific, I'm surprised its outperforming the EX 500/f4.5, a lens that more than twice the price. Please keep shooting and posting more pictures as you go. -Regards



Folks - a note about comparisons here;


Downsizing a 13MB pic to 140KB really takes a toll on the fine detail. I have no doubt that the Sigma 500 shoots sharper, better detail on a birds feathers than the DFA150-450 @450 on its best day. I can provide a dropbox link to fullsized samples to anyone who PMs me an email addy.


But the 150-450 is a keeper for me. I can lug it and shoot handheld; not something the Sigma 500 can do.
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Originally posted by jpzk For those with the K3/K3II and the 150-450 lens:
Do you find that TAv works better than your previous gear, for instance I am using TAv with the K5 +DA*300/4 ... serves me well.
Curious how you may be able to compare using this setting with "the new gear" . I do mostly birding so Tav is my normal tele mode. Today I hope to compare AFC mode and speed between the da*300 and the spiffy new FA150-450 @300mm. If anything jumps out I will update this thread tonight.
Thanks for the info.
I was expecting, or at least hoping for, that!


QuoteOriginally posted by imtheguy Quote
I have no doubt that the Sigma 500 shoots sharper, better detail on a birds feathers than the DFA150-450 @450 on its best day. I can provide a dropbox link to fullsized samples to anyone who PMs me an email addy.
According to the latest posts with sample shots, I would believe that the 150-450 sits right there between the DA*300/4 and the Sigma 500/4.5
Is this what you would find?
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