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stevebrot · 01-21-2011, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Rense

AND I got a FED, in the same parcel!

So when are we going to start seeing those FED pictures? Am I safe to assume that it came with the ubiquitous Industar 26?

Steve

jolepp · 01-22-2011, 03:02 AM

Helios 44M (f=4 (?), bounced flash (? = turns out the aperture was still acting up, qtipped some more, apparently the first operation still left too much grease behind ... maybe I should have used lighter fluid instead of that rubbing alcohol that was handy :-) [edit: added a snap of the lens itself]

**twilhelm** · 01-22-2011, 09:05 AM

Not too long ago I purchased a Voigtlander Bessa R with the intention of having a camera I could purchase and use Russian made M39 lenses on.
Browsing through this thread I see that many of you are using these lenses on the Pentax DSLR's.

My question is what adapters are you using to mount M39 lenses, and what potential problems are there?

I would love to use them on my *ist DL or better yet my K10d!

stevebrot · 01-22-2011, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by twilhelm

Not too long ago I purchased a Voigtlander Bessa R with the intention of having a camera I could purchase and use Russian made M39 lenses on.
Browsing through this thread I see that many of you are using these lenses on the Pentax DSLR's.

My question is what adapters are you using to mount M39 lenses, and what potential problems are there?

I would love to use them on my *ist DL or better yet my K10d!

There are two types of FSU 39mm screw mount lenses. The first type is LTM and were designed for use on rangefinder cameras such as the Zorki, FED and your Bessa. They cannot attain infinity focus with your Pentax dSLR, though they are popular with the EVIL camera users. The second type was designed for use with early Zenit SLR cameras. The M39/Zenit many be adapted for use on the Pentax system. It is important to know which lenses you are dealing with, though the task is made somewhat easier because there is not a lot of overlap of lens names between the two systems. There are Jupiter-9 85/2 models in both mounts, but I think that may be it.

The short story is that your Bessa R lenses will not work for general shooting, though my understanding is that the Jupiter-8 in LTM makes a decent close-focus lens on an SLR!

Steve

Last edited by stevebrot; 01-22-2011 at 09:30 AM.

Prox-iee · 01-22-2011, 10:05 AM

yesterday I accidentally found an auction house, and with my gas money for the week, I won a mint condition Zenit TTL with its original carrying case and manual, and a mint condition helios 44-m, among other things, for $10

**twilhelm** · 01-22-2011, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

There are two types of FSU 39mm screw mount lenses. The first type is LTM and were designed for use on rangefinder cameras such as the Zorki, FED and your Bessa. They cannot attain infinity focus with your Pentax dSLR, though they are popular with the EVIL camera users. The second type was designed for use with early Zenit SLR cameras. The M39/Zenit many be adapted for use on the Pentax system. It is important to know which lenses you are dealing with, though the task is made somewhat easier because there is not a lot of overlap of lens names between the two systems. There are Jupiter-9 85/2 models in both mounts, but I think that may be it.

The short story is that your Bessa R lenses will not work for general shooting, though my understanding is that the Jupiter-8 in LTM makes a decent close-focus lens on an SLR!

Steve

Thank you Steve for answering that.

On the plus side you gave me a reason to keep my Bessa R and buy another camera / lens system.

xjjohnno · 01-25-2011, 02:49 PM

Helios 40
[IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8714.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT]
[IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8724.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT]
[IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8758.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT]

joelR · 01-26-2011, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by xjjohnno

Helios 40
[IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8714.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT]

[IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8758.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT]

I think the first and third pictures would make a funny diptych.

mikeSF · 01-28-2011, 02:12 PM

I cannot remember if i posted this example from my Helios 44M-7, but it really shows the sharpness of this lens, far more so than my 44-2, but the 44-2 has the more interesting bokeh.

this at f/5.6

Fuel Door

**Rense** · 01-29-2011, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

There are two types of FSU 39mm screw mount lenses. The first type is LTM and were designed for use on rangefinder cameras such as the Zorki, FED and your Bessa. They cannot attain infinity focus with your Pentax dSLR, though they are popular with the EVIL camera users. The second type was designed for use with early Zenit SLR cameras. The M39/Zenit many be adapted for use on the Pentax system. It is important to know which lenses you are dealing with, though the task is made somewhat easier because there is not a lot of overlap of lens names between the two systems. There are Jupiter-9 85/2 models in both mounts, but I think that may be it.

The short story is that your Bessa R lenses will not work for general shooting, though my understanding is that the Jupiter-8 in LTM makes a decent close-focus lens on an SLR!

Steve

I agree, but there are several lenses for which a LTM Leica-mount as well as M42 variants exist! My Industar-61 on my FED can't be used on my dSLR's, but the M42-version I own can be used without a problem....

Just a note...

dude163 · 01-29-2011, 09:30 AM

Mike: Nice shot of the car

**Rense** · 01-29-2011, 01:23 PM

Ah, this thread is over a thousand replies!!! Congrats to you all!!!

stevebrot · 01-29-2011, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Rense

I agree, but there are several lenses for which a LTM Leica-mount as well as M42 variants exist! My Industar-61 on my FED can't be used on my dSLR's, but the M42-version I own can be used without a problem....

Just a note...

Thank for the correction Rense. It occurred to me after I did the post that there are several Industar lenses that were made in both mounts. The Industar-61 is one of the best known and more highly regarded examples. So the best advice is to be sure of the mount before buying. Fortunately, most SLR lenses are physically larger than the rangefinder equivalents so that provides a clue.

There is also a third FSU M39 variant. Some early FED lenses are 39mm, but the thread pitch is different than LTM.

Steve

(Learning more all the time...)

stevebrot · 01-29-2011, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Rense

Ah, this thread is over a thousand replies!!! Congrats to you all!!!

Woo! Hoo! A treasure trove of FSU info and examples!

OTOH, the prices are trending up...

Steve

**Rense** · 01-30-2011, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Woo! Hoo! A treasure trove of FSU info and examples!

OTOH, the prices are trending up...

Steve

Yeah.....

01-22-2011, 03:02 AM	#992
jolepp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Finland Photos: Albums Posts: 3,196	Helios 44M (f=4 (?), bounced flash (? = turns out the aperture was still acting up, qtipped some more, apparently the first operation still left too much grease behind ... maybe I should have used lighter fluid instead of that rubbing alcohol that was handy :-) [edit: added a snap of the lens itself] Last edited by jolepp; 03-03-2017 at 02:41 AM.

01-22-2011, 09:05 AM	#993
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	Presenting a question Not too long ago I purchased a Voigtlander Bessa R with the intention of having a camera I could purchase and use Russian made M39 lenses on. Browsing through this thread I see that many of you are using these lenses on the Pentax DSLR's. My question is what adapters are you using to mount M39 lenses, and what potential problems are there? I would love to use them on my *ist DL or better yet my K10d!

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01-21-2011, 10:12 PM	#991
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Rense AND I got a FED, in the same parcel! So when are we going to start seeing those FED pictures? Am I safe to assume that it came with the ubiquitous Industar 26? Steve

01-22-2011, 09:24 AM	#994
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by twilhelm Not too long ago I purchased a Voigtlander Bessa R with the intention of having a camera I could purchase and use Russian made M39 lenses on. Browsing through this thread I see that many of you are using these lenses on the Pentax DSLR's. My question is what adapters are you using to mount M39 lenses, and what potential problems are there? I would love to use them on my ist DL or better yet my K10d! There are two types of FSU 39mm screw mount lenses. The first type is LTM and were designed for use on rangefinder cameras such as the Zorki, FED and your Bessa. They cannot attain infinity focus with your Pentax dSLR, though they are popular with the EVIL camera users. The second type was designed for use with early Zenit SLR cameras. The M39/Zenit many be adapted for use on the Pentax system. It is important to know which lenses you are dealing with, though the task is made somewhat easier because there is not a lot of overlap of lens names between the two systems. There are Jupiter-9 85/2 models in both mounts, but I think that may be it. The short story is that your Bessa R lenses will not work for general shooting, though my understanding is that the Jupiter-8 in LTM makes a decent close-focus lens on an SLR! Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 01-22-2011 at 09:30 AM.*

01-22-2011, 10:05 AM	#995
Prox-iee Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NH Photos: Gallery Posts: 107	yesterday I accidentally found an auction house, and with my gas money for the week, I won a mint condition Zenit TTL with its original carrying case and manual, and a mint condition helios 44-m, among other things, for $10

01-22-2011, 11:01 AM	#996
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	Originally posted by stevebrot There are two types of FSU 39mm screw mount lenses. The first type is LTM and were designed for use on rangefinder cameras such as the Zorki, FED and your Bessa. They cannot attain infinity focus with your Pentax dSLR, though they are popular with the EVIL camera users. The second type was designed for use with early Zenit SLR cameras. The M39/Zenit many be adapted for use on the Pentax system. It is important to know which lenses you are dealing with, though the task is made somewhat easier because there is not a lot of overlap of lens names between the two systems. There are Jupiter-9 85/2 models in both mounts, but I think that may be it. The short story is that your Bessa R lenses will not work for general shooting, though my understanding is that the Jupiter-8 in LTM makes a decent close-focus lens on an SLR! Steve Thank you Steve for answering that. On the plus side you gave me a reason to keep my Bessa R and buy another camera / lens system.

01-25-2011, 02:49 PM	#997
xjjohnno Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,115	Helios 40 [IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8714.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT] [IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8724.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT] [IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8758.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT]

01-26-2011, 07:22 AM	#998
joelR Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: US Posts: 211	Originally posted by xjjohnno Helios 40 [IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8714.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT] [IMGWIDELEFT]http://www.xjgarage.org/photos/january2011/slides/KFYV8758.JPG[/IMGWIDELEFT] I think the first and third pictures would make a funny diptych.

01-28-2011, 02:12 PM	#999
mikeSF Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: East Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,620	I cannot remember if i posted this example from my Helios 44M-7, but it really shows the sharpness of this lens, far more so than my 44-2, but the 44-2 has the more interesting bokeh. this at f/5.6 Fuel Door

01-29-2011, 02:14 AM	#1000
Rense Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zetten - The Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,050	Originally posted by stevebrot There are two types of FSU 39mm screw mount lenses. The first type is LTM and were designed for use on rangefinder cameras such as the Zorki, FED and your Bessa. They cannot attain infinity focus with your Pentax dSLR, though they are popular with the EVIL camera users. The second type was designed for use with early Zenit SLR cameras. The M39/Zenit many be adapted for use on the Pentax system. It is important to know which lenses you are dealing with, though the task is made somewhat easier because there is not a lot of overlap of lens names between the two systems. There are Jupiter-9 85/2 models in both mounts, but I think that may be it. The short story is that your Bessa R lenses will not work for general shooting, though my understanding is that the Jupiter-8 in LTM makes a decent close-focus lens on an SLR! Steve I agree, but there are several lenses for which a LTM Leica-mount as well as M42 variants exist! My Industar-61 on my FED can't be used on my dSLR's, but the M42-version I own can be used without a problem.... Just a note...

01-29-2011, 09:30 AM	#1001
dude163 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 824	Mike: Nice shot of the car

01-29-2011, 01:23 PM	#1002
Rense Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zetten - The Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,050	Ah, this thread is over a thousand replies!!! Congrats to you all!!!

01-29-2011, 11:44 PM	#1003
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Rense I agree, but there are several lenses for which a LTM Leica-mount as well as M42 variants exist! My Industar-61 on my FED can't be used on my dSLR's, but the M42-version I own can be used without a problem.... Just a note... Thank for the correction Rense. It occurred to me after I did the post that there are several Industar lenses that were made in both mounts. The Industar-61 is one of the best known and more highly regarded examples. So the best advice is to be sure of the mount before buying. Fortunately, most SLR lenses are physically larger than the rangefinder equivalents so that provides a clue. There is also a third FSU M39 variant. Some early FED lenses are 39mm, but the thread pitch is different than LTM. Steve (Learning more all the time...)

01-29-2011, 11:45 PM	#1004
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Rense Ah, this thread is over a thousand replies!!! Congrats to you all!!! Woo! Hoo! A treasure trove of FSU info and examples! OTOH, the prices are trending up... Steve

01-30-2011, 01:32 PM	#1005
Rense Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zetten - The Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,050	Originally posted by stevebrot Woo! Hoo! A treasure trove of FSU info and examples! OTOH, the prices are trending up... Steve Yeah.....