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estudleon · 12-06-2010, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by natestation

Got a question for some knowledgeable film users - does the +2 (approximately) EV rule still apply when using Taks on film bodies? I'm using a Canon Elan 7 in particular, if that matters. Personally, I've seen that different lighting situations on digitals can make the exposure comp anywhere from +0.5 to +3. I'm trying to avoid burning a lot of film figuring this out the hard way. Help would be appreciated!

SLIDES

Put the ISO at 200 (if you use a 100 film)

To take a pic, meter only the high lights of the scene. For all the subjects more clear than the 18 % gray target (= to the average brown of the trees), open 1/2 aperture more. Except: white subjects, open 1 aperture.

Subjects equal to 18% gray, the meter reading without correction.

Mike Cash · 12-06-2010, 04:17 AM

I've never had to do any EV adjustment on a film body. The reason EV adjustment is necessary on digital has to do with the sensor, I think. The only thing you really need to be careful about is making sure your camera's meter is working correctly. You can figure that out pretty well just by using "Sunny 16" without having to shoot even a single frame.

Pentax S2
SMC Takumar 55/1.8
DNP Centuria 200

ducdao · 12-06-2010, 07:34 AM

Few shots with my Super Tak 50/1.4

Wide open

Lottery tickets vendor on the street

Looking down...

Steinback · 12-06-2010, 05:35 PM

@Natestation - I would suggest writing down the exposure metered by your Canon at all apertures under controlled lighting and comparing it to a hand held meter or your digital camera with the same lens under the same conditions. I don't think there's any way of knowing how your Canon will meter with a non coupled lens like a Takumar without testing it unless there's something in the camera manual about using manual lenses. My film KX meters within the exposure latitude of negative film with non coupled lenses but my K1000 meter only seems to get along with them wide open.

v5planet · 12-06-2010, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

S-M-C 200 f/4
Cropped quite a bit and still a little blurry, those things are fast!

beautiful capture!

erkie · 12-06-2010, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Jewelltrail

Eric:
I did not have a scale in the house to measure ounces, but got an idea. I had to grocery shop this afternoon, so I took the adapter with me. I through it on one of the scales in the produce section--it weighs 6 ounces according to that scale.

Not as heavy as I expected ! although I.m sure the 67 glass is proportionally heavier. Still the 90 or 50 would have to be really sharp all the way out to the edges only using the center of the image. I'd probably only use it for landscapes so the weight wouldn't be an issue.

I hate to bug you so much but does the adapter fit pretty securely ? I had a praktisix- praktica m42 adapter years ago it was very nice since it had the aperature pin that coupled the aperature to the camera. It fit really well but of course that was a screw adapter so you just tightened it up snug.

Thanks again for all your help.

I'm still waiting for my Tak 55 to show up. Getting impatient

Eric

**jatrax** · 12-06-2010, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by ducdao

Few shots with my Super Tak 50/1.4

Ducdao, that last one is riveting. I guess it is because of the black & white but it really tells a story.

ducdao · 12-07-2010, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

Ducdao, that last one is riveting. I guess it is because of the black & white but it really tells a story.

Yes, it is. It tells a sad story about Vietnam where there is practically no middle class. You're either super rich or super poor.

yasik · 12-07-2010, 03:02 AM

takumar 35 3.5

Mike Cash · 12-07-2010, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by yasik

takumar 35 3.5

Just as I was feeling sorry for myself for being chilly you remind me how lucky I am to be indoors with a small heater next to me. Was this photo taken in Japan? I ask because of the graffiti on the wall. ("Aho" means "fool" or "idiot" in Japanese).

Pentax K20D
S-M-C Takumar 35/2

yasik · 12-07-2010, 04:27 AM

It was taken in russia) i suppose "aho" there is something not written to the end or smth)))

figmental1978 · 12-07-2010, 06:08 AM

Great photo yasik!

Here's some from a gig on the weekend. K-r + Super Takumar 55mm.

LensScribe · 12-07-2010, 08:30 AM

The first time I lived in London I had a Kiwi housemate who bought some cowboy boots in Camden. I was too skint to do likewise, and have longed for a pair ever since. As you can imagine, they're a tricky item to find in my part of the world.

Last weekend, while visiting a nearby flea market I paid a visit to a second-hand stall stall where I bought a great knee-length, Italian-made, winter coat last winter for around $50... and low and behold they now sell second-hand boots too.

These ticked all the necessary boxes (brown, not too elaborately patterned with stitching, pointed toes, wooden heel), and most importantly, they fit like a glove. Of course, it's mid-summer here, with daily highs around 30 degrees celcius, so I won't be wearing them much before April or May.

K200D; S-M-C Takumar 50/f1.4

LensScribe · 12-07-2010, 08:36 AM - **1 Like**

This started out as a test shot to check exposure so I could take a shot with a recently purchased Yashica 635, but I loved the colours. I'm also rather partial to the checkerboard building which is relatively new (and sadly destined to be inhabited by lawyers I believe).

K200D; S-M-C Takumar 28/f3.5

**Porga** · 12-07-2010, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by yasik

takumar 35 3.5
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5233997338_c87682bac3_z.jpg

nice!
They look like they are freezing!

12-07-2010, 06:08 AM	#6267
figmental1978 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 789	Great photo yasik! Here's some from a gig on the weekend. K-r + Super Takumar 55mm. Last edited by figmental1978; 12-07-2010 at 06:23 AM.

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12-06-2010, 03:00 AM	#6256
estudleon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 228	Originally posted by natestation Got a question for some knowledgeable film users - does the +2 (approximately) EV rule still apply when using Taks on film bodies? I'm using a Canon Elan 7 in particular, if that matters. Personally, I've seen that different lighting situations on digitals can make the exposure comp anywhere from +0.5 to +3. I'm trying to avoid burning a lot of film figuring this out the hard way. Help would be appreciated! SLIDES Put the ISO at 200 (if you use a 100 film) To take a pic, meter only the high lights of the scene. For all the subjects more clear than the 18 % gray target (= to the average brown of the trees), open 1/2 aperture more. Except: white subjects, open 1 aperture. Subjects equal to 18% gray, the meter reading without correction.

12-06-2010, 04:17 AM	#6257
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	I've never had to do any EV adjustment on a film body. The reason EV adjustment is necessary on digital has to do with the sensor, I think. The only thing you really need to be careful about is making sure your camera's meter is working correctly. You can figure that out pretty well just by using "Sunny 16" without having to shoot even a single frame. Pentax S2 SMC Takumar 55/1.8 DNP Centuria 200

12-06-2010, 07:34 AM	#6258
ducdao Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Montreal/Vermont Posts: 2,160	Few shots with my Super Tak 50/1.4 Wide open Lottery tickets vendor on the street Looking down...

12-06-2010, 05:35 PM	#6259
Steinback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GTA, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,673	@Natestation - I would suggest writing down the exposure metered by your Canon at all apertures under controlled lighting and comparing it to a hand held meter or your digital camera with the same lens under the same conditions. I don't think there's any way of knowing how your Canon will meter with a non coupled lens like a Takumar without testing it unless there's something in the camera manual about using manual lenses. My film KX meters within the exposure latitude of negative film with non coupled lenses but my K1000 meter only seems to get along with them wide open.

12-06-2010, 07:09 PM	#6260
v5planet Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Seattle Photos: Albums Posts: 1,915	Originally posted by jatrax S-M-C 200 f/4 Cropped quite a bit and still a little blurry, those things are fast! beautiful capture!

12-06-2010, 07:19 PM	#6261
erkie Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 407	Originally posted by Jewelltrail Eric: I did not have a scale in the house to measure ounces, but got an idea. I had to grocery shop this afternoon, so I took the adapter with me. I through it on one of the scales in the produce section--it weighs 6 ounces according to that scale. Not as heavy as I expected ! although I.m sure the 67 glass is proportionally heavier. Still the 90 or 50 would have to be really sharp all the way out to the edges only using the center of the image. I'd probably only use it for landscapes so the weight wouldn't be an issue. I hate to bug you so much but does the adapter fit pretty securely ? I had a praktisix- praktica m42 adapter years ago it was very nice since it had the aperature pin that coupled the aperature to the camera. It fit really well but of course that was a screw adapter so you just tightened it up snug. Thanks again for all your help. I'm still waiting for my Tak 55 to show up. Getting impatient Eric

12-06-2010, 09:42 PM	#6262
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by ducdao Few shots with my Super Tak 50/1.4 Ducdao, that last one is riveting. I guess it is because of the black & white but it really tells a story.

12-07-2010, 03:02 AM	#6263
ducdao Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Montreal/Vermont Posts: 2,160	Originally posted by jatrax Ducdao, that last one is riveting. I guess it is because of the black & white but it really tells a story. Yes, it is. It tells a sad story about Vietnam where there is practically no middle class. You're either super rich or super poor.

12-07-2010, 03:02 AM	#6264
yasik Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 234	takumar 35 3.5

12-07-2010, 03:34 AM	#6265
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by yasik takumar 35 3.5 Just as I was feeling sorry for myself for being chilly you remind me how lucky I am to be indoors with a small heater next to me. Was this photo taken in Japan? I ask because of the graffiti on the wall. ("Aho" means "fool" or "idiot" in Japanese). Pentax K20D S-M-C Takumar 35/2

12-07-2010, 04:27 AM	#6266
yasik Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 234	It was taken in russia) i suppose "aho" there is something not written to the end or smth)))

12-07-2010, 08:30 AM	#6268
LensScribe Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Photos: Gallery Posts: 316	The first time I lived in London I had a Kiwi housemate who bought some cowboy boots in Camden. I was too skint to do likewise, and have longed for a pair ever since. As you can imagine, they're a tricky item to find in my part of the world. Last weekend, while visiting a nearby flea market I paid a visit to a second-hand stall stall where I bought a great knee-length, Italian-made, winter coat last winter for around $50... and low and behold they now sell second-hand boots too. These ticked all the necessary boxes (brown, not too elaborately patterned with stitching, pointed toes, wooden heel), and most importantly, they fit like a glove. Of course, it's mid-summer here, with daily highs around 30 degrees celcius, so I won't be wearing them much before April or May. K200D; S-M-C Takumar 50/f1.4

12-07-2010, 08:36 AM - 1 Like	#6269
LensScribe Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Photos: Gallery Posts: 316	This started out as a test shot to check exposure so I could take a shot with a recently purchased Yashica 635, but I loved the colours. I'm also rather partial to the checkerboard building which is relatively new (and sadly destined to be inhabited by lawyers I believe). K200D; S-M-C Takumar 28/f3.5

12-07-2010, 09:42 AM	#6270
Porga Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 476	Originally posted by yasik takumar 35 3.5 http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5233997338_c87682bac3_z.jpg nice! They look like they are freezing!

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