Originally posted by tim60 The 17/4 sells in eBay auctionsw at prices that make that above average, but only a little. The market is rising at the moment. If it is good you have the advantage of confirming quality before buying and having a real person to approach if there is some improper representation in the selling process. You may think the price margin, which is ot much, to be worth that.
I am contemplating how to picture my set so that they look good - light and background. Sometime.
IMHO if you're not a collector, the 17mm tak is not worth it. For just a little more you can get the DA 10-17mm used. Get not only 17mm fisheye, but also a 10mm fisheye, modern coatings, and Autofocus. I find that under 24mm the tak starts to lose their bang for buck, as they approach the price of modern lenses. I know that modern lenses are not built as nicely and not as nice to use, but I find that they have no problem making good images
Of course The DA 10-17 is not a pancake, but having never owned the 17mm I can't really vouch on how this affects me getting the image I want. The 10mm end sure helps though!
FYI the DA 10-17 can be used on a film body from around 14mm with very minimal vignetting.