Starting to read this thread from the beginning, through posts like Todd's just now, it's hard not to be envious of the results possible with the DA10-17, and other great FE zooms and primes. The antique Spiratone, Samigon, and other early auxilliary fisheyes are not in that realm. But I'm having fun experimenting with mine -- just like I would tinkering with a wind-up Victrola that can nonetheless sometimes yield surprising results.
Unlike modern fisheye and wideangle conversion lenses, these antiques are more involved than something that only screws onto the filter thread. They have a ring one sets for the size of "normal" lens your camera has, enabling the pairing to produce the full circle fisheye image on the film plane. Like my Samigon, most of them offered settings between 30 and 200mm. They also have their own adjustable aperture iris; as they are meant to be used with the main lens set wide open (and focused on infinity).
None of that means of course that these old auxilliary FEs have to be used according to original directions. What if I don't want a full circle or arcs of a circle on the sides of the image? I experimented with putting the Samigon on the front of my SMC Pentax-A 80-200mm zoom. With the Samigon set for a 30mm main lens and the Pentax zoom set at about 105mm, I appeared to get square corners in the veiwfinder frame. Unfortunately, I still got some vignetting on the right side of images (incidentally I'm shooting from about 4-5 inches from the closest two hazel bush leaves):
I also stopped down the Samigon three stops, one more than the recommended two, in order to get sharper focus at the fringes than I was finding in my first tests. Next I tried setting the Pentax zoom to 135mm, which resulted in square image corners without vignetting on the actual images. Interestingly, some of the images didn't look very fishy. It really took placing something *distortable* near the widest sides for the frame for the result to look more than "ultra-wide" angle. One nice thing about this set-up, and better FEs, is the capability to combine near and far -- here, a dandelion seed head in 4" tall grass shot from inches away seems very close now to the arc of the earth...hee, hee, hee...:
I may shoot some full-circle FE shots on film later today....postable results will be delayed.