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08-07-2018, 12:47 AM - 8 Likes   #46
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Fake painting unpleasant bokeh? Pffffttttt!!



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QuoteOriginally posted by ffking Quote
If you take a more holistic view of the image then the combination of high levels of sharpness of in focus areas with very soft out of focus areas is exactly what is required to make those in-focus areas stand out t their best effect - ys, people go on about bokeh as if it were something in itself and the ideal picture would be entirely out o focus, but it's the ability to contrast with in-focus areas that really matters, and that's what both lenses deliver.
I'm not talking about any sorts of weird types of bokeh. I just want to say that if a lens is super sharp and it it has very smooth bokeh it doesn't necessarily mean it is a great lens. A few years ago I had a Nikon D750 plus a few highly regarded lenses (Nikon 24-70/2.8G, 85/1.4G, Sigma 50 Art, Tamron 70-200/2.8 G1). At first, I was so impressed by the Sigma! I almost didn't shoot with other lenses at all. A perfect autofocus along with an extraordinary amount of details... I was glued to that combo. However, after a few months, I began to notice that I like the images from my 24-70/2.8G much more. They were much more pleasant to look at! It was not the versatility of zoom lens that I liked more but the images as a whole! Now I am vaccinated against such lenses and I can see their look from distance
I'm almost sure that any owner of the D FA* will love their Limiteds much more after a while ))
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QuoteOriginally posted by skyer Quote
I'm not talking about any sorts of weird types of bokeh. I just want to say that if a lens is super sharp and it it has very smooth bokeh it doesn't necessarily mean it is a great lens. A few years ago I had a Nikon D750 plus a few highly regarded lenses (Nikon 24-70/2.8G, 85/1.4G, Sigma 50 Art, Tamron 70-200/2.8 G1). At first, I was so impressed by the Sigma! I almost didn't shoot with other lenses at all. A perfect autofocus along with an extraordinary amount of details... I was glued to that combo. However, after a few months, I began to notice that I like the images from my 24-70/2.8G much more. They were much more pleasant to look at! It was not the versatility of zoom lens that I liked more but the images as a whole! Now I am vaccinated against such lenses and I can see their look from distance
I'm almost sure that any owner of the D FA* will love their Limiteds much more after a while ))
That's very odd. I think that the consensus would be that the 85 f1.4 would have hands down better out of focus rendering than the 24-70.

Obviously, as you have demonstrated, there is no arguing over taste, but I would argue that I would much prefer the qualities of the DFA *50 when shooting. In the end, the question comes down more to the skill of the photographer than the lens itself and what he or she makes of it. I guess it is good that you have immunized yourself against lenses like this. You've probably saved a bundle of money in the process.
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My thought are exactly the same as yours. This will prove to be a classic lens for sure. The only thing I would add to your summary was that it was not as large as I was expecting and it didnt feel at all heavy on the K1
It seems to be well-balanced on the K-1 but maybe not for my APS-C body. For someone who prefers prime lenses for their size and weight, I would consider this to be on a heavy side. Anyway, the amount of details that this lens can capture is truly stunning!!

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That's very odd. I think that the consensus would be that the 85 f1.4 would have hands down better out of focus rendering than the 24-70.

Obviously, as you have demonstrated, there is no arguing over taste, but I would argue that I would much prefer the qualities of the DFA *50 when shooting. In the end, the question comes down more to the skill of the photographer than the lens itself and what he or she makes of it. I guess it is good that you have immunized yourself against lenses like this. You've probably saved a bundle of money in the process.
I don't say 24-70/2.8G is the bokeh king. What I stressed on is that the Sigma's bokeh is too dull. Actually, not only the bokeh was dull but images as a whole. It's hard to describe but they look something like this -
The D FA* 50 may be a little bit better than the Sigma 50 Art but there are similarities between them. Images don't look natural, they look vapid.

As for the 85/1.4G, yes, its bokeh was smoother but also in a way like the Sigma. images from FA*85 look much much better. Some say that one of the reasons for this is because there are too many lens elements in them. Too much glass is not good for micro-contrast, 3D-pop, and rich color.
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QuoteOriginally posted by skyer Quote
I don't say 24-70/2.8G is the bokeh king. What I stressed on is that the Sigma's bokeh is too dull. Actually, not only the bokeh was dull but images as a whole. It's hard to describe but they look something like this -
The D FA* 50 may be a little bit better than the Sigma 50 Art but there are similarities between them. Images don't look natural, they look vapid.

As for the 85/1.4G, yes, its bokeh was smoother but also in a way like the Sigma. images from FA*85 look much much better. Some say that one of the reasons for this is because there are too many lens elements in them. Too much glass is not good for micro-contrast, 3D-pop, and rich color.
Vapid, and unnatural? What?!!!
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Outstanding f1.4 images guys, keep 'em coming. Very very sharp. Whats the flare like shooting into the sun, and what about the sunstars?
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Moderators, can you please move this thread to Lens Clubs? Thanks!
Did you any post processing to get rid of the purple fringe?
On my focus target I see clearly some of it at f=1.4.
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Did you any post processing to get rid of the purple fringe?
On my focus target I see clearly some of it at f=1.4.
No defringe correction in this photo.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LennyBloke Quote
A couple of Astrotracer shots (at f1.4)…


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no sharpening, vignetting adjustment and a bit of exposure, shadow adjustments. First time I've used the astrotracer on the K1 so I'm sure I';; improve
Would you mind testing this out with crop-aps-c mode active. I'd really like to know how much coma there would be on a crop sensor at f1.4
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