300mm plus Lens Club: discuss your long lenses

Ducatigaz · 02-25-2016, 10:23 AM - **7 Likes**

Who is going to buy a FA*250-600mm?
These were taken from my car using a K-5/FA*600mm f4 ED[IF] on a Kirk window mount.
This is a Tree Sparrow ,these are quite scarce in the UK
!/80

**ChipB** · 02-25-2016, 10:26 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Ducatigaz

These were taken from my car using a K-5/FA*600mm f4 ED[IF] on a Kirk window mount.
This is a Tree Sparrow ,these are quite scarce in the UK!

Nicely done Gary - congrats on getting a 'rare' one!!

**wtlwdwgn** · 02-25-2016, 10:26 AM

I'd love to have a 250-600 but I'm not sure I could lift it onto a tripod!

Ducatigaz · 02-25-2016, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by wtlwdwgn

I'd love to have a 250-600 but I'm not sure I could lift it onto a tripod!

I'll help you lift it on as long as I can borrow it for a few months of the year

**wtlwdwgn** · 02-25-2016, 10:34 AM - **1 Like**

We could go halfsies but I think the shipping back and forth would be rediculous. Plus I'd have to sell my house, car, and all my photo gear to be able to pay my half!

normhead · 02-25-2016, 10:42 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Ducatigaz

I'll help you lift it on as long as I can borrow it for a few months of the year

Ya, he'll help you lift it into his car, and then help you lift it out when he brings it back.

Makes sure you get any additional lifting in advance of the lens use.

**boriscleto** · 02-25-2016, 11:05 AM - **5 Likes**

Dark and gray today. The didn't stop Otis' northern cousins from trying to keep all the Juncos away from the ground under the feeder.

Juncos don't like to feed on the feeder. It's a platform feeder but they still get nervous about it. So they sit in the Trumpet vine and wait for the squirrels to go away.

I lowered the shutter speed to 1/80 sec. Too slow to handhold the 150-500...the AF didn't want to lock onto the head either...

You can see it's mating season...

The female Junco is the bravest when it comes to the feeder. The AF still wanted to lock onto her chest. Maybe I should have set it to 9 point...

1/80th is way too slow for Chickadees.

When the Cardinals showed up I doubled the shutter speed to 1/160 sec. ISO 2000 isn't all that bad.

Not quite enough DoF at F/8

Also keep in mind these are all through a dirty window

**Skewed** · 02-25-2016, 12:55 PM - **2 Likes**

Here's another one at 630mm (DFA 150-450 + 1.4TC). A bit soft, yes, in morning light at ~180ft from my front porch.

normhead · 02-25-2016, 01:40 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by boriscleto

Dark and gray today. The didn't stop Otis' northern cousins from trying to keep all the Juncos away from the ground under the feeder.

Also keep in mind these are all through a dirty window

Amazing how getting close is better than having a clean window or no window. OoF dirt does't affect the image much, when afternoon comes light hits your window, the reflections kill you though.

**boriscleto** · 02-25-2016, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Amazing how getting close is better than having a clean window or no window. OoF dirt does't affect the image much, when afternoon comes light hits your window, the reflections kill you though.

The way the house is oriented the morning light is worst. Sunrise hits the window and in the afternoon the sun is on the other side of the house. But once the leaves come out that part of the yard is in shadow most of the morning. There's a 50 foot sugar maple in the back yard...

biz-engineer · 02-25-2016, 02:08 PM - **1 Like**

From the photos that I can see here, seems to be a huge drop of image quality between the DFA150-450 and the FA600.

**boriscleto** · 02-25-2016, 02:21 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by biz-engineer

From the photos that I can see here, seems to be a huge drop of image quality between the DFA150-450 and the FA600.

One of them is a $1,700 variable aperture zoom. The other is a $7,000 * prime. One of these things is not like the other...

biz-engineer · 02-25-2016, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

One of them is a $1,700 variable aperture zoom. The other is a $7,000 * prime. One of these things is not like the other...

You mean Ricoh going cheap on the new lenses having super duper HD coating ? or is it coating on top of cheapo glass? I guess FA600 would have to be compared with DA560 then?

**WPRESTO** · 02-25-2016, 04:19 PM

Some of the softness in the image of the kites may be motion-blur or missed focus point. The pine needles at left look sharper than the two birds. At 630mm it takes precious little to miss the plane of focus.

**Skewed** · 02-25-2016, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

Some of the softness in the image of the kites may be motion-blur or missed focus point. The pine needles at left look sharper than the two birds. At 630mm it takes precious little to miss the plane of focus.

Right, there was motion blur; I had set up for the perch on the right, did not refocus, and swiveled a bit to catch the bird on the left. Actually, I'm surprised I got this shot at all.
p.s. The two birds were not in the same focal plane; the one on the left was closer.

02-25-2016, 10:42 AM - 1 Like	#20016
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Ducatigaz I'll help you lift it on as long as I can borrow it for a few months of the year Ya, he'll help you lift it into his car, and then help you lift it out when he brings it back. Makes sure you get any additional lifting in advance of the lens use. Last edited by normhead; 02-25-2016 at 01:35 PM.

02-25-2016, 12:55 PM - 2 Likes	#20018
Skewed Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Mateo, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 179	White-tailed Kites Here's another one at 630mm (DFA 150-450 + 1.4TC). A bit soft, yes, in morning light at ~180ft from my front porch.

02-25-2016, 04:38 PM	#20025
Skewed Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Mateo, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 179	Originally posted by WPRESTO Some of the softness in the image of the kites may be motion-blur or missed focus point. The pine needles at left look sharper than the two birds. At 630mm it takes precious little to miss the plane of focus. Right, there was motion blur; I had set up for the perch on the right, did not refocus, and swiveled a bit to catch the bird on the left. Actually, I'm surprised I got this shot at all. p.s. The two birds were not in the same focal plane; the one on the left was closer. Last edited by Skewed; 02-25-2016 at 04:56 PM. Reason: add info

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02-25-2016, 10:23 AM - 7 Likes	#20011
Ducatigaz Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Blunsdon,Wiltshire, UK Posts: 1,500	Who is going to buy a FA250-600mm? These were taken from my car using a K-5/FA600mm f4 ED[IF] on a Kirk window mount. This is a Tree Sparrow ,these are quite scarce in the UK !/80

02-25-2016, 10:26 AM - 1 Like	#20012
ChipB Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Eau Claire, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,701	Originally posted by Ducatigaz These were taken from my car using a K-5/FA*600mm f4 ED[IF] on a Kirk window mount. This is a Tree Sparrow ,these are quite scarce in the UK! Nicely done Gary - congrats on getting a 'rare' one!!

02-25-2016, 10:26 AM	#20013
wtlwdwgn Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Billings, MT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,838	I'd love to have a 250-600 but I'm not sure I could lift it onto a tripod!

02-25-2016, 10:28 AM	#20014
Ducatigaz Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Blunsdon,Wiltshire, UK Posts: 1,500	Originally posted by wtlwdwgn I'd love to have a 250-600 but I'm not sure I could lift it onto a tripod! I'll help you lift it on as long as I can borrow it for a few months of the year

02-25-2016, 10:34 AM - 1 Like	#20015
wtlwdwgn Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Billings, MT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,838	We could go halfsies but I think the shipping back and forth would be rediculous. Plus I'd have to sell my house, car, and all my photo gear to be able to pay my half!

02-25-2016, 11:05 AM - 5 Likes	#20017
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Dark and gray today. The didn't stop Otis' northern cousins from trying to keep all the Juncos away from the ground under the feeder. Juncos don't like to feed on the feeder. It's a platform feeder but they still get nervous about it. So they sit in the Trumpet vine and wait for the squirrels to go away. I lowered the shutter speed to 1/80 sec. Too slow to handhold the 150-500...the AF didn't want to lock onto the head either... You can see it's mating season... The female Junco is the bravest when it comes to the feeder. The AF still wanted to lock onto her chest. Maybe I should have set it to 9 point... 1/80th is way too slow for Chickadees. When the Cardinals showed up I doubled the shutter speed to 1/160 sec. ISO 2000 isn't all that bad. Not quite enough DoF at F/8 Also keep in mind these are all through a dirty window

02-25-2016, 01:40 PM - 1 Like	#20019
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by boriscleto Dark and gray today. The didn't stop Otis' northern cousins from trying to keep all the Juncos away from the ground under the feeder. Also keep in mind these are all through a dirty window Amazing how getting close is better than having a clean window or no window. OoF dirt does't affect the image much, when afternoon comes light hits your window, the reflections kill you though.

02-25-2016, 02:08 PM	#20020
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by normhead Amazing how getting close is better than having a clean window or no window. OoF dirt does't affect the image much, when afternoon comes light hits your window, the reflections kill you though. The way the house is oriented the morning light is worst. Sunrise hits the window and in the afternoon the sun is on the other side of the house. But once the leaves come out that part of the yard is in shadow most of the morning. There's a 50 foot sugar maple in the back yard...

02-25-2016, 02:08 PM - 1 Like	#20021
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	From the photos that I can see here, seems to be a huge drop of image quality between the DFA150-450 and the FA600.

02-25-2016, 02:21 PM - 1 Like	#20022
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by biz-engineer From the photos that I can see here, seems to be a huge drop of image quality between the DFA150-450 and the FA600. One of them is a $1,700 variable aperture zoom. The other is a $7,000 * prime. One of these things is not like the other...

02-25-2016, 02:37 PM	#20023
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,231	Originally posted by boriscleto One of them is a $1,700 variable aperture zoom. The other is a $7,000 * prime. One of these things is not like the other... You mean Ricoh going cheap on the new lenses having super duper HD coating ? or is it coating on top of cheapo glass? I guess FA600 would have to be compared with DA560 then?

02-25-2016, 04:19 PM	#20024
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,104	Some of the softness in the image of the kites may be motion-blur or missed focus point. The pine needles at left look sharper than the two birds. At 630mm it takes precious little to miss the plane of focus.

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