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Arjay Bee · 07-11-2018, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by normhead

If you think you might like to get into birding, a P1000 is cheaper than a DA*300 and gives you more reach. Personally I just love that my XG-1 gives me a chance at shots like this without carrying a lot of weight. The Nikon with a tripod would be a lot better.

The Online Photographer had some similar thoughts about this - interesting to read comments form some of his readers that echo your comments Norm.

normhead · 07-12-2018, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by Arjay Bee

The Online Photographer had some similar thoughts about this - interesting to read comments form some of his readers that echo your comments Norm.

One of my buddies is a birder in the Toronto area. He has an older Canon that approximate 800mm. Sometime I get the better shot, sometimes he does. He can't match my close ups, but anything at distance he may end up with the better shot. And he posts some very nice pictures.

**Canada_Rockies** · 07-12-2018, 05:41 AM

My wife has a Pentax X-5 (~C$250) that works really well. You can compare some recent shots in the same place at the same time from our trip to Cypress Hills Interprovincial park here:
Cypress Hills Interprovincial Park June 2018

**marcusBMG** · 07-12-2018, 06:25 AM

The bridge cameras are good for flocks and group shots - so much more depth of field.

**ChipB** · 07-12-2018, 09:33 AM

My wife uses a Panasonic P&S with a 20x zoom range - 35mm equivalent 24-480mm - and she gets some really good shots at the long end. I'm constantly amazed at how well the little camera performs.

**boriscleto** · 07-12-2018, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by normhead

One of my buddies is a birder in the Toronto area. He has an older Canon that approximate 800mm. Sometime I get the better shot, sometimes he does. He can't match my close ups, but anything at distance he may end up with the better shot. And he posts some very nice pictures.

One of my birder buddies used to use a Nikon 400/3.5 manual focus lens with a 2x teleconverter on a D700. His distance shots were always better...

normhead · 07-12-2018, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

One of my birder buddies used to use a Nikon 400/3.5 manual focus lens with a 2x teleconverter on a D700. His distance shots were always better...

Unfortunately for me, I don't have one of those. Even when Pentax come out with the new 2x TC, Ill still only have 600 5.6. I Need one of those 400 3.5s. If only I had the money for an A*400 2.8. But even then, with the 1.7x, that would only get me to 680 ƒ4.5. For $4000 I'm guessing I'll never own one.

For the money involved my Tammy 300 2.8 seems like a really good deal. What's 100mm between friends?

Last edited by normhead; 07-23-2018 at 04:47 AM.

**boriscleto** · 07-12-2018, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Unfortunately for me, I don't have one of those. Even when Pentax come out with the new 2x TC, Ill still only have 600 5.6. I Need one of those 400 3.5s. If only I had the money for an A*400 2.8. But even then, with the 1.7x, that would only get me to 780 ƒ4.5. For $4000 I'm guessing I'll never own one.

For the money involved my Tammy 300 2.8 seems like a really good deal. What's 100mm between friends?

K-mount definitely has some holes when it comes to long lenses. If I had known I would get into birding the way I did I probably would have held out until I could afford a Nikon body instead of buying the K-x in 2009...

Sterby · 07-12-2018, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by normhead

What's 100mm between friends?

About one HD 1.4x TC? Just guessing here

**alfa75ts** · 07-12-2018, 11:11 PM - **3 Likes**

Can't seem to find this one in my bird book, I mean it's got a beak and weird feathers, what is it?

dbs · 07-12-2018, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by alfa75ts

Can't seem to find this one in my bird book, I mean it's got a beak and weird feathers, what is it?

Hi Craig
B is for Bird
E is for Echidna
There you go problem solved.

Dave

siva.ss.kumar · 07-13-2018, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

K-mount definitely has some holes when it comes to long lenses. If I had known I would get into birding the way I did I probably would have held out until I could afford a Nikon body instead of buying the K-x in 2009...

Wait. It feels like you were writing about me

In 2009, I had a choice to pick a D90 (body only) or K-x + 2 lenses. I decided to go with 2nd option (I had just sold off my K200D) and once in a while think if I made a mistake as I am doing a lot of birding now.

**WPRESTO** · 07-13-2018, 04:38 AM - **2 Likes**

Purple martin perched on a purpose-built nesting/colony facility. Deeply cropped from a 150~450mm image.

RockvilleBob · 07-13-2018, 07:12 AM - **2 Likes**

Blue Bird and Dragonfly - cross posted

**Canada_Rockies** · 07-13-2018, 07:34 AM

When I saw the title I was expecting two images, but the single is much better! Nice catch.

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Arjay Bee Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Horn Island, Torres Straits, Q Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,715	Originally posted by normhead If you think you might like to get into birding, a P1000 is cheaper than a DA*300 and gives you more reach. Personally I just love that my XG-1 gives me a chance at shots like this without carrying a lot of weight. The Nikon with a tripod would be a lot better. The Online Photographer had some similar thoughts about this - interesting to read comments form some of his readers that echo your comments Norm.

07-12-2018, 05:31 AM	#28997
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Arjay Bee The Online Photographer had some similar thoughts about this - interesting to read comments form some of his readers that echo your comments Norm. One of my buddies is a birder in the Toronto area. He has an older Canon that approximate 800mm. Sometime I get the better shot, sometimes he does. He can't match my close ups, but anything at distance he may end up with the better shot. And he posts some very nice pictures.

07-12-2018, 05:41 AM	#28998
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	My wife has a Pentax X-5 (~C$250) that works really well. You can compare some recent shots in the same place at the same time from our trip to Cypress Hills Interprovincial park here: Cypress Hills Interprovincial Park June 2018

07-12-2018, 06:25 AM	#28999
marcusBMG Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,870	The bridge cameras are good for flocks and group shots - so much more depth of field.

07-12-2018, 09:33 AM	#29000
ChipB Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Eau Claire, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,717	My wife uses a Panasonic P&S with a 20x zoom range - 35mm equivalent 24-480mm - and she gets some really good shots at the long end. I'm constantly amazed at how well the little camera performs.

07-12-2018, 09:40 AM	#29001
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by normhead One of my buddies is a birder in the Toronto area. He has an older Canon that approximate 800mm. Sometime I get the better shot, sometimes he does. He can't match my close ups, but anything at distance he may end up with the better shot. And he posts some very nice pictures. One of my birder buddies used to use a Nikon 400/3.5 manual focus lens with a 2x teleconverter on a D700. His distance shots were always better...

07-12-2018, 09:46 AM	#29002
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by boriscleto One of my birder buddies used to use a Nikon 400/3.5 manual focus lens with a 2x teleconverter on a D700. His distance shots were always better... Unfortunately for me, I don't have one of those. Even when Pentax come out with the new 2x TC, Ill still only have 600 5.6. I Need one of those 400 3.5s. If only I had the money for an A400 2.8. But even then, with the 1.7x, that would only get me to 680 ƒ4.5. For $4000 I'm guessing I'll never own one. For the money involved my Tammy 300 2.8 seems like a really good deal. What's 100mm between friends? Last edited by normhead; 07-23-2018 at 04:47 AM.*

07-12-2018, 09:49 AM	#29003
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by normhead Unfortunately for me, I don't have one of those. Even when Pentax come out with the new 2x TC, Ill still only have 600 5.6. I Need one of those 400 3.5s. If only I had the money for an A*400 2.8. But even then, with the 1.7x, that would only get me to 780 ƒ4.5. For $4000 I'm guessing I'll never own one. For the money involved my Tammy 300 2.8 seems like a really good deal. What's 100mm between friends? K-mount definitely has some holes when it comes to long lenses. If I had known I would get into birding the way I did I probably would have held out until I could afford a Nikon body instead of buying the K-x in 2009...

07-12-2018, 12:52 PM	#29004
Sterby Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Tarján Photos: Albums Posts: 140	Originally posted by normhead What's 100mm between friends? About one HD 1.4x TC? Just guessing here

07-12-2018, 11:11 PM - 3 Likes	#29005
alfa75ts Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,356	Can't seem to find this one in my bird book, I mean it's got a beak and weird feathers, what is it?

07-12-2018, 11:51 PM	#29006
dbs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Clare Valley S A Photos: Albums Posts: 7,568	Originally posted by alfa75ts Can't seem to find this one in my bird book, I mean it's got a beak and weird feathers, what is it? Hi Craig B is for Bird E is for Echidna There you go problem solved. Dave

07-13-2018, 12:16 AM	#29007
siva.ss.kumar Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chennai, India Photos: Albums Posts: 534	Originally posted by boriscleto K-mount definitely has some holes when it comes to long lenses. If I had known I would get into birding the way I did I probably would have held out until I could afford a Nikon body instead of buying the K-x in 2009... Wait. It feels like you were writing about me In 2009, I had a choice to pick a D90 (body only) or K-x + 2 lenses. I decided to go with 2nd option (I had just sold off my K200D) and once in a while think if I made a mistake as I am doing a lot of birding now.

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