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10-15-2021, 11:30 AM   #37066
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Who says you need a wide angle for landscapes? At 450mm we can see the winter coming in the mountain tops!
Long glass makes a great landscape lens. One of these evenings I want to do a shot of down town Minneapolis from a location I recently became aware of (not the 24th Street pedestrian bridge) for something different. However a long shot like that through an urban heat island I will need to have some cooperating weather to minimize the convection currents.

10-15-2021, 02:34 PM   #37067
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QuoteOriginally posted by bertwert Quote
Who says you need a wide angle for landscapes?
For anyone who doesn't know, there's a whole thread to prove you don't: Post your Telephoto Landscapes! - PentaxForums.com

Fine shot Robert. Could be a poster. If I may say so, your photostream on Flickr is great viewing and seriously under-appreciated.

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Sulphur-crested Cockatoos.
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From a trip up north with the K-3 III and DA*300mm, with and without the 1.4x TC. The camera does well in low light.







Up north you say?.... hmmmm
Reminds me of when I was living and teaching in Timmins On. Sitting in the staff room before march break, one of the teachers says "I'm taking my family south for the break"
Being from Toronto, I say "Florida?"
She says, "no Sudbury."

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Up north you say?.... hmmmm
Reminds me of when I was living and teaching in Timmins On. Sitting in the staff room before march break, one of the teachers says "I'm taking my family south for the break"
Being from Toronto, I say "Florida?"
She says, "no Sudbury."
Algonquin is a way north of Toronto - and we have been to Rainy River (and the Canadian Arctic) as well, which is a lot further north. In UK I lived in Leeds which is considered "up north" to a lot of southern folks, but there's a lot of territory between Leeds and the Scottish border. It's all relative. In Algonquin we head for boreal type habitat (not the fall colours that a lot of people seek at this time of year), which definitely has a northern affinity and creatures to match (though the male Spruce Grouse still eludes me!).

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Spotted this Rare squirrel - Variable Squirrel, (Callosciurus finlaysonii) while shooting birds.
shot with K3 + Sigma 500/4.5 handheld

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Spotted this Rare squirrel - Variable Squirrel, (Callosciurus finlaysonii) while shooting birds.
shot with K3 + Sigma 500/4.5 handheld

What a fascinating little critter! As usual, a superb image, Ken

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Greetings fellow Pentaxians! I thought I'd use this thread to inspire some healthy debate.
I photograph birds quite often, not for framed wall mounts, but mostly so I can identify them more easily. I have a F*300mm which is light, has exceptional IQ, and is fast... light wise but not in the AF department! I also have a DFA 150-450mm which has better than average IQ and fairly speedy AF, but trying to hold it steady by hand or follow a moving target is challenging.
I've looked longingly at the DA*300mm, but some reviews say the AF isn't fast enough for birds. Is it worth getting one, or do I hold out for the promised upgraded DA*300mm?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Robin Quote
Greetings fellow Pentaxians! I thought I'd use this thread to inspire some healthy debate.
I photograph birds quite often, not for framed wall mounts, but mostly so I can identify them more easily. I have a F*300mm which is light, has exceptional IQ, and is fast... light wise but not in the AF department! I also have a DFA 150-450mm which has better than average IQ and fairly speedy AF, but trying to hold it steady by hand or follow a moving target is challenging.
I've looked longingly at the DA*300mm, but some reviews say the AF isn't fast enough for birds. Is it worth getting one, or do I hold out for the promised upgraded DA*300mm?
As the owner of both the 55-300mm PLM and the monster 150-450mm, my take would be - practice more on the 150-450mm, which, as you say, "has better than average IQ". Yes I have probs with the 150-450mm following a moving target. More practice, and maybe for BIFs, start trying to zoom back out to may 350mm to 400mm instead of the full 450mm????
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QuoteOriginally posted by MossyRocks Quote
Long glass makes a great landscape lens. One of these evenings I want to do a shot of down town Minneapolis from a location I recently became aware of (not the 24th Street pedestrian bridge) for something different. However a long shot like that through an urban heat island I will need to have some cooperating weather to minimize the convection currents.
Aha neat - weather and heat distortion is a good point and seldom thought about... though I imagine you give that plenty of though with astro shooting - but that's really beyond my realm of knowledge.

QuoteOriginally posted by Des Quote
For anyone who doesn't know, there's a whole thread to prove you don't: Post your Telephoto Landscapes! - PentaxForums.com
Yeah! It's a real shame it's not more active over there...

QuoteOriginally posted by Des Quote
Fine shot Robert. Could be a poster. If I may say so, your photostream on Flickr is great viewing and seriously under-appreciated.
Thank you Des, you're much too kind!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Robin Quote
Greetings fellow Pentaxians! I thought I'd use this thread to inspire some healthy debate.
I photograph birds quite often, not for framed wall mounts, but mostly so I can identify them more easily. I have a F*300mm which is light, has exceptional IQ, and is fast... light wise but not in the AF department! I also have a DFA 150-450mm which has better than average IQ and fairly speedy AF, but trying to hold it steady by hand or follow a moving target is challenging.
I've looked longingly at the DA*300mm, but some reviews say the AF isn't fast enough for birds. Is it worth getting one, or do I hold out for the promised upgraded DA*300mm?
Firstly, I've not heard of a promised upgraded DA*300... secondly, since you already have the 150-450 take the advice of @K2 to K50; above and practice!

As a new owner of a 150-450 myself, I do find myself a little challenged here and there with wee birds - it's a real beast to master. Unfortunately there's not much wildlife activity right now around me... If you're not using a tripod/monopod then make sure you practice good handholding technique - there's a lot in parallel to good marksmanship techniques, and keep your shutter speed high enough. Preferably 1/500s or faster would be ideal - but I shoot down to much lower than that depending on the light. The nice thing with the 150-450 is that it's sharp enough to leave wide open when you need the light! I notice you also have a K-1 in your signature, so shooting with that you really don't need to be too concerned about the ISO going up...

Anyways, I wish you the best of luck and hope to see you posting some shots here! It's also a great place to ask for advice, there's many knowledgeable users (much more so than me) hanging out in this thread here
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QuoteOriginally posted by Robin Quote
Greetings fellow Pentaxians! I thought I'd use this thread to inspire some healthy debate.
I photograph birds quite often, not for framed wall mounts, but mostly so I can identify them more easily. I have a F*300mm which is light, has exceptional IQ, and is fast... light wise but not in the AF department! I also have a DFA 150-450mm which has better than average IQ and fairly speedy AF, but trying to hold it steady by hand or follow a moving target is challenging.
I've looked longingly at the DA*300mm, but some reviews say the AF isn't fast enough for birds. Is it worth getting one, or do I hold out for the promised upgraded DA*300mm?
Even a skinny monopod is a significant aid to getting good results with a big, long, heavy tele such as the 150~450mm. However, monopods are a little awkward to carry and can be awkward to adjust quickly especially if a bird is high up. I have a traditional gunstock that is much quicker to use that a monopod and easier to transport. I installed a Manrotto shutter trigger designed for their pistol-grip tripod head so _ could hold the gunstock with both hands instead of having my right hand up on the camera to release the shutter. More recently I got a support that drapes over top the shoulder and also has a pad that rests against your chest. It is by far the best brace for a big tele if you are walking about rather that sitting in one place (in which case use a tripod). Here is one that is very similar and it only costs $60 from B&H

ikan Recoil Reloaded Camera Stabilizer


BTW: I modified mine in the following ways: 1) the several pieces fit together with 1/4 X 20 thumb tightened screws in the manner of old tripod heads holding a camera or lens. These joints tended to rotate so I drilled a hole in one side, threaded it, screwed in an old video pin with glue on it, then drilled an appropriate hole in the opposite piece so there is no chance of unwanted rotation but the pieces can still be disassembled. 2) the original had a simple padded grip which I replaced with a trigger grip to which any kind of electronic shutter cable may be attached Vello CB-800 Universal Pistol Grip with Shutter Release

I also modified the point where this grip attaches so it would not rotate. So now I can hold the rig out under the lens with my right hand rather than back at the camera which is much more stable.

BTW: Both of these are plastic except for the screws and the sockets into which they thread, so drilling holes to install anti-twist pins is very easy.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bertwert Quote
Firstly, I've not heard of a promised upgraded DA*300... secondly, since you already have the 150-450 take the advice of @K2 to K50; above and practice!

As a new owner of a 150-450 myself, I do find myself a little challenged here and there with wee birds - it's a real beast to master. Unfortunately there's not much wildlife activity right now around me... If you're not using a tripod/monopod then make sure you practice good handholding technique - there's a lot in parallel to good marksmanship techniques, and keep your shutter speed high enough. Preferably 1/500s or faster would be ideal - but I shoot down to much lower than that depending on the light. The nice thing with the 150-450 is that it's sharp enough to leave wide open when you need the light! I notice you also have a K-1 in your signature, so shooting with that you really don't need to be too concerned about the ISO going up...

Anyways, I wish you the best of luck and hope to see you posting some shots here! It's also a great place to ask for advice, there's many knowledgeable users (much more so than me) hanging out in this thread here
Thank you Robert. Yes, now that I have looked for it again I think the post about an upgraded DA*300mm might have been an optimistic misread or daydream .
I wanted to add that I wasn't maligning the F*300... When it has time to focus it is phenomenal! So seeing that you asked, here are some shots from the 300 on the K-1 and the 150-450 on the K-3. Not really a comparison as they both have their strong points.




African Stone Chat - K-1 + F*300mm



Southern Banded Snake Eagle - K-3 + DFA150-450mm

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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
Even a skinny monopod is a significant aid to getting good results with a big, long, heavy tele such as the 150~450mm. However, monopods are a little awkward to carry and can be awkward to adjust quickly especially if a bird is high up. I have a traditional gunstock that is much quicker to use that a monopod and easier to transport. I installed a Manrotto shutter trigger designed for their pistol-grip tripod head so _ could hold the gunstock with both hands instead of having my right hand up on the camera to release the shutter. More recently I got a support that drapes over top the shoulder and also has a pad that rests against your chest. It is by far the best brace for a big tele if you are walking about rather that sitting in one place (in which case use a tripod). Here is one that is very similar and it only costs $60 from B&H

ikan Recoil Reloaded Camera Stabilizer


BTW: I modified mine in the following ways: 1) the several pieces fit together with 1/4 X 20 thumb tightened screws in the manner of old tripod heads holding a camera or lens. These joints tended to rotate so I drilled a hole in one side, threaded it, screwed in an old video pin with glue on it, then drilled an appropriate hole in the opposite piece so there is no chance of unwanted rotation but the pieces can still be disassembled. 2) the original had a simple padded grip which I replaced with a trigger grip to which any kind of electronic shutter cable may be attached Vello CB-800 Universal Pistol Grip with Shutter Release

I also modified the point where this grip attaches so it would not rotate. So now I can hold the rig out under the lens with my right hand rather than back at the camera which is much more stable.

BTW: Both of these are plastic except for the screws and the sockets into which they thread, so drilling holes to install anti-twist pins is very easy.
Wow, that's a serious setup! Fortunately most of the time I'm out looking for birds is in game reserves, so you have to be inside the car anyway and can use a beanbag on the window ledge. The other idea which I haven't tried yet is resting the lens on my wife's shoulder! But I think that might end badly.
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