300mm plus Lens Club: discuss your long lenses

Unregistered User · 04-07-2019, 01:39 PM

House across the lake #1 w/D FA* 50mm f/1.4, #2 w/(new to me) D FA 150-450mm F4.5-5.6 ED (at 450mm) from the same distance minutes apart; no processing.

**boriscleto** · 04-07-2019, 01:42 PM - **17 Likes**

I haven't used the lil'Bigma since January, so I took it to Montezuma NWR this morning...

An almost 100% crop...

Bufflehead, Canvasback, Redheads, Ruddy Ducks,Gadwall, Northern Shovelers, Ring-necked Ducks, American Wigeon, American Coots, most too far for photos...

The only Teal I saw...

An unusually large group of GBH all in the same pool...

**Craigbob** · 04-07-2019, 01:43 PM - **10 Likes**

I just picked up an FA* 300mm f/4.5 for a great price. I'm amazed at how sharp this lens is. Just a few test shots from the lens.

traderdrew · 04-07-2019, 05:26 PM - **14 Likes**

I took a vacation to Reno & Lake Tahoe and took the Sigma 500mm F/4.5

Last edited by traderdrew; 04-07-2019 at 06:21 PM. Reason: another photo

mohb · 04-08-2019, 02:06 PM - **7 Likes**

Finally got to use my DA*300 on its intended target

**Canada_Rockies** · 04-08-2019, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by mohb

Finally got to use my DA*300 on its intended target

The first shot is top quality sports shooting! Well done!

Inteligente · 04-08-2019, 10:23 PM - **19 Likes**

Pentax KP + DA300* + kenko 1.5x

Chris Mak · 04-09-2019, 09:58 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by luftfluss

I hope you get a chance to post some pics with the 400 DO II + 2x TC.

I got the EF2.0x III converter today. No birding yet, but a test shot. Coming from the DA560 + 1.4TC, this was going to be an important one, because the Canon 400DOII + EF2.0x at 800mm f8 is going to take the place of DA560 + 1.4TC at 784mm f8. For wading and perched songbirds, it has been an important combination of focal length and aperture for me. A 2.0TC is not generally part of a serious birding kit, only for the special shots, but I took a gamble that it would turn out right with the Canon EF2.0x III, which is regarded (with Sony's 2.0TC) as the best 2.0TC around, and would be at least as good as the 1.4TC on the DA560.

Here is a test shot on the 7DII at 2000 iso. I am pleasantly surprised to see no CA, either lateral or longitudinal, whatsoever in testing with the 400DOII + EF2.0x III, which was a bit of a problem with the DA560 + 1.4TC (mostly longitudinal, so impossible to clean up), and feel that it passes the critical detail test. Also, auto focus is still fast, responsive and mostly spot-on.
On the Sony A7rII, sharpness is even better, but auto focus is clearly not native, with quite a bit of travelling through the focus range, needing to set the limiter on the lens, and aid with manual forcus. Once in the region, it snaps into spot-on focus immediately.
Finally, the very, very good IS in the 400DOII really comes to aid handholding 800mm, making it almost cheatingly easy compared to the DA560+1.4TC, and the 7DII seems to get better at iso 800 to iso 2000 compared to the K3II, whereas the K3II is clearly better at iso 100- iso 200, and a tie inbetween. What the 7DII does very well, is hold colors at higher iso settings, where the K3 washes out above iso 1600.

Chris

**luftfluss** · 04-09-2019, 10:22 AM

That's an impressive result. I was wondering about AF performance with the 2xTC, since more often than not they are coupled with 300/2.8's for wildlife shooting, but it appears that your heavy investment in lighter equipment [

] is paying off. And, of course, getting that good detail shooting wide open is

Jome · 04-09-2019, 11:54 AM - **1 Like**

Manual and handled: During lunchtime (5 minutes walk away from my workplace) and all of this - K-3 and Tokina AT-X SD 100-300 / F:4 (I need to improve but this lens delivers 'painty' like results).

**Skewed** · 04-09-2019, 12:37 PM - **12 Likes**

Went on a whale watching tour off the SF Peninsula with my K3 and 55-300PLM:

mohb · 04-09-2019, 02:05 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Canada_Rockies

The first shot is top quality sports shooting! Well done!

Thanks, I get a lot of practice as I watch two games a week

**jacamar** · 04-09-2019, 02:26 PM - **15 Likes**

A little wave of Golden-crowned Kinglets in the park today. I spent a fair bit of time with them but even then I was fortunate to get just a few shots - they are so tiny and hyperactive just locking focus is a major feat!

K-3, DA*300mm, DA 1.4xTC

traderdrew · 04-09-2019, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Chris Mak

I got the EF2.0x III converter today. No birding yet, but a test shot. Coming from the DA560 + 1.4TC, this was going to be an important one, because the Canon 400DOII + EF2.0x at 800mm f8 is going to take the place of DA560 + 1.4TC at 784mm f8. For wading and perched songbirds, it has been an important combination of focal length and aperture for me. A 2.0TC is not generally part of a serious birding kit, only for the special shots, but I took a gamble that it would turn out right with the Canon EF2.0x III, which is regarded (with Sony's 2.0TC) as the best 2.0TC around, and would be at least as good as the 1.4TC on the DA560.

Here is a test shot on the 7DII at 2000 iso. I am pleasantly surprised to see no CA, either lateral or longitudinal, whatsoever in testing with the 400DOII + EF2.0x III, which was a bit of a problem with the DA560 + 1.4TC (mostly longitudinal, so impossible to clean up), and feel that it passes the critical detail test. Also, auto focus is still fast, responsive and mostly spot-on.
On the Sony A7rII, sharpness is even better, but auto focus is clearly not native, with quite a bit of travelling through the focus range, needing to set the limiter on the lens, and aid with manual forcus. Once in the region, it snaps into spot-on focus immediately.
Finally, the very, very good IS in the 400DOII really comes to aid handholding 800mm, making it almost cheatingly easy compared to the DA560+1.4TC, and the 7DII seems to get better at iso 800 to iso 2000 compared to the K3II, whereas the K3II is clearly better at iso 100- iso 200, and a tie inbetween. What the 7DII does very well, is hold colors at higher iso settings, where the K3 washes out above iso 1600.

Chris

Sounds like your analysis is believable. Canon has had enough time to work on their 7D and the 100-400. I didn't like the first versions of either of them. Sony has come along. If you ask me, I've spoken to a few people who have switched from Canon to Nikon or Sony. None of them regretted that decision. As for ISO 2000, that isn't a good enough reason for me to switch as I rarely use those high numbers. I don't need it. Any Canonite who is photographing birds who says "they have no noise at ISO 3200" is just a fanatic because we are always cropping when shooting birds.

**tduell** · 04-10-2019, 04:18 AM - **10 Likes**

Cattle Egret
K-1, DFA 150-450, handheld. See exif for shot details.

Cheers,
Terry

04-09-2019, 09:58 AM - 1 Like	#30923
Chris Mak Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by luftfluss I hope you get a chance to post some pics with the 400 DO II + 2x TC. I got the EF2.0x III converter today. No birding yet, but a test shot. Coming from the DA560 + 1.4TC, this was going to be an important one, because the Canon 400DOII + EF2.0x at 800mm f8 is going to take the place of DA560 + 1.4TC at 784mm f8. For wading and perched songbirds, it has been an important combination of focal length and aperture for me. A 2.0TC is not generally part of a serious birding kit, only for the special shots, but I took a gamble that it would turn out right with the Canon EF2.0x III, which is regarded (with Sony's 2.0TC) as the best 2.0TC around, and would be at least as good as the 1.4TC on the DA560. Here is a test shot on the 7DII at 2000 iso. I am pleasantly surprised to see no CA, either lateral or longitudinal, whatsoever in testing with the 400DOII + EF2.0x III, which was a bit of a problem with the DA560 + 1.4TC (mostly longitudinal, so impossible to clean up), and feel that it passes the critical detail test. Also, auto focus is still fast, responsive and mostly spot-on. On the Sony A7rII, sharpness is even better, but auto focus is clearly not native, with quite a bit of travelling through the focus range, needing to set the limiter on the lens, and aid with manual forcus. Once in the region, it snaps into spot-on focus immediately. Finally, the very, very good IS in the 400DOII really comes to aid handholding 800mm, making it almost cheatingly easy compared to the DA560+1.4TC, and the 7DII seems to get better at iso 800 to iso 2000 compared to the K3II, whereas the K3II is clearly better at iso 100- iso 200, and a tie inbetween. What the 7DII does very well, is hold colors at higher iso settings, where the K3 washes out above iso 1600. Chris Last edited by Chris Mak; 06-18-2019 at 12:29 PM.

04-09-2019, 10:22 AM	#30924
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,618	That's an impressive result. I was wondering about AF performance with the 2xTC, since more often than not they are coupled with 300/2.8's for wildlife shooting, but it appears that your heavy investment in lighter equipment [] is paying off. And, of course, getting that good detail shooting wide open is

04-09-2019, 11:54 AM - 1 Like	#30925
Jome Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2016 Photos: Albums Posts: 784	Manual and handled: During lunchtime (5 minutes walk away from my workplace) and all of this - K-3 and Tokina AT-X SD 100-300 / F:4 (I need to improve but this lens delivers 'painty' like results). Last edited by Jome; 06-17-2019 at 02:12 PM.

04-09-2019, 02:26 PM - 15 Likes	#30928
jacamar Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toronto Photos: Albums Posts: 3,443	A little wave of Golden-crowned Kinglets in the park today. I spent a fair bit of time with them but even then I was fortunate to get just a few shots - they are so tiny and hyperactive just locking focus is a major feat! K-3, DA300mm, DA 1.4xTC Last edited by jacamar; 04-10-2019 at 05:34 AM.*

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04-07-2019, 01:39 PM	#30916
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boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	I haven't used the lil'Bigma since January, so I took it to Montezuma NWR this morning... An almost 100% crop... Bufflehead, Canvasback, Redheads, Ruddy Ducks,Gadwall, Northern Shovelers, Ring-necked Ducks, American Wigeon, American Coots, most too far for photos... The only Teal I saw... An unusually large group of GBH all in the same pool...

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Craigbob Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: San Antonio, TX Photos: Albums Posts: 521	I just picked up an FA* 300mm f/4.5 for a great price. I'm amazed at how sharp this lens is. Just a few test shots from the lens.

04-07-2019, 05:26 PM - 14 Likes	#30919
traderdrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 639	I took a vacation to Reno & Lake Tahoe and took the Sigma 500mm F/4.5 Last edited by traderdrew; 04-07-2019 at 06:21 PM. Reason: another photo

04-08-2019, 02:06 PM - 7 Likes	#30920
mohb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,912	Finally got to use my DA*300 on its intended target

04-08-2019, 09:24 PM	#30921
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by mohb Finally got to use my DA*300 on its intended target The first shot is top quality sports shooting! Well done!

04-08-2019, 10:23 PM - 19 Likes	#30922
Inteligente Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Cherkassy Posts: 56	Pentax KP + DA300* + kenko 1.5x

04-09-2019, 02:05 PM - 1 Like	#30927
mohb Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,912	Originally posted by Canada_Rockies The first shot is top quality sports shooting! Well done! Thanks, I get a lot of practice as I watch two games a week

04-09-2019, 08:18 PM	#30929
traderdrew Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 639	Originally posted by Chris Mak I got the EF2.0x III converter today. No birding yet, but a test shot. Coming from the DA560 + 1.4TC, this was going to be an important one, because the Canon 400DOII + EF2.0x at 800mm f8 is going to take the place of DA560 + 1.4TC at 784mm f8. For wading and perched songbirds, it has been an important combination of focal length and aperture for me. A 2.0TC is not generally part of a serious birding kit, only for the special shots, but I took a gamble that it would turn out right with the Canon EF2.0x III, which is regarded (with Sony's 2.0TC) as the best 2.0TC around, and would be at least as good as the 1.4TC on the DA560. Here is a test shot on the 7DII at 2000 iso. I am pleasantly surprised to see no CA, either lateral or longitudinal, whatsoever in testing with the 400DOII + EF2.0x III, which was a bit of a problem with the DA560 + 1.4TC (mostly longitudinal, so impossible to clean up), and feel that it passes the critical detail test. Also, auto focus is still fast, responsive and mostly spot-on. On the Sony A7rII, sharpness is even better, but auto focus is clearly not native, with quite a bit of travelling through the focus range, needing to set the limiter on the lens, and aid with manual forcus. Once in the region, it snaps into spot-on focus immediately. Finally, the very, very good IS in the 400DOII really comes to aid handholding 800mm, making it almost cheatingly easy compared to the DA560+1.4TC, and the 7DII seems to get better at iso 800 to iso 2000 compared to the K3II, whereas the K3II is clearly better at iso 100- iso 200, and a tie inbetween. What the 7DII does very well, is hold colors at higher iso settings, where the K3 washes out above iso 1600. Chris Sounds like your analysis is believable. Canon has had enough time to work on their 7D and the 100-400. I didn't like the first versions of either of them. Sony has come along. If you ask me, I've spoken to a few people who have switched from Canon to Nikon or Sony. None of them regretted that decision. As for ISO 2000, that isn't a good enough reason for me to switch as I rarely use those high numbers. I don't need it. Any Canonite who is photographing birds who says "they have no noise at ISO 3200" is just a fanatic because we are always cropping when shooting birds.

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