i recently picked up an old " adapt-all " ( ok, T-mount ) that i though might be nostalgic, and hopefully great fun to show my friends ... the Tamron Nestar 400mm .... slide-out, 30 foot near focus, and all ... imagine my surprise when i actually got some good shots from my new toy .... i will attempt to import a pic of a purple finch from another thread here .... 20 feet, so i had to use a 1 inch extension tube to get focus that close ! ...this thing has personality !! ...... and only 6 minutes to get it from it's case to mounted on my camera ... !