Adaptall Mount Club (Tamron).

**marcusBMG** · 06-11-2017, 10:06 AM - **2 Likes**

I've been playing with my adaptall x-250mm zooms. These are 1:1 pixel peeping crops to illustrate. All at 250mm. Focus point was (attempted) to be on the eye(s). Samsung NX20.
Z250: the big old 80-250mm, constant f3.8, clearly derived from the adaptamatic version given their similarity. A premium lens of its time..
F8.

This old zoom is sharp! But soft wide open at this focus range (200mm, near infinity was much better - link below), and even on apsc dslr there is usually noticeable IQ loss away from the image centre. F3.8:

Z250's successor, the QZ-825M (aka QZ-250M), 80-250mm f3.8-4.5. Also a 2 ring zoom, more compact, no tripod mount.

Again impressive stopped down. But if anything even softer than the Z250 wide open, and more noticeable fringing/CA evident, most specifically on other test shots I did.

Adaptall-2 75-250mm f3.8-4.5. there are two versions of this, I have the later 104A.

This lens gives the most consistent results, and it is comfortably superior wide open.

You can see the comparison at 200mm, all f-stops to f11, on my castle turret test page here. The performance of the Z250 is impressively the best to my eyes on this test.

**pepperberry farm** · 06-12-2017, 08:04 PM - **1 Like**

**pacerr** · 06-13-2017, 07:10 PM

The 40 and 44 are, in my opinion, very underrated lenses. Optically they'd be SP-quality, IME, if they were 2.8 lenses and the body wasn't early poly-carbonate designs. I've never encountered anyone with a bad opinion of them or heard of one with mechanical issues. As lower cost trial lenses for the then new designs in poly-carbonates Tamron was wisely cautious with marketing and soon produced similar enhanced models with very little benefit except marketing looks and 2.8 aperture.

I've owned and enjoyed both for almost thiry-plus years on film and digital bodies. Both have played very well with the Tamron 1.4x TC and extension rings or close-up filters too.

It's good to see 'em displayed as well this.

**pepperberry farm** · 06-14-2017, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by pacerr

The 40 and 44 are, in my opinion, very underrated lenses. Optically they'd be SP-quality, IME, if they were 2.8 lenses and the body wasn't early poly-carbonate designs. I've never encountered anyone with a bad opinion of them or heard of one with mechanical issues. As lower cost trial lenses for the then new designs in poly-carbonates Tamron was wisely cautious with marketing and soon produced similar enhanced models with very little benefit except marketing looks and 2.8 aperture.

I've owned and enjoyed both for almost thiry-plus years on film and digital bodies. Both have played very well with the Tamron 1.4x TC and extension rings or close-up filters too.

It's good to see 'em displayed as well this.

I agree that the 44A is under-appreciated - I don't see many shots with them at all, either here or on flickr....

**pacerr** · 06-14-2017, 10:15 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

I don't see many shots with them at all,

Maybe 'cause most folks don't want to admit to using lenses that sell 2-for-twenty-bucks used regardless of optical quality?

My two started in a mishap investigation kit with a K1000, a cheap strobe and a set of close-up filters and never disappointed me.

**pepperberry farm** · 06-15-2017, 03:18 AM - **2 Likes**

stevebrot · 06-15-2017, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

Every time I see your photos taken with the 72B, I kick myself for not buying one when they were still available new. The supply of used ones seems to have totally dried up

Steve

**pepperberry farm** · 06-15-2017, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Every time I see your photos taken with the 72B, I kick myself for not buying one when they were still available new. The supply of used ones seems to have totally dried up

Steve

occasionally on eBay, but more often I'll see one on KEH, or even Sunrise Camera....

stevebrot · 06-15-2017, 10:50 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by pepperberry farm

occasionally on eBay, but more often I'll see one on KEH, or even Sunrise Camera....

There is one on eBay now, from Germany with a no-name Canon adapter for $201 USD, but I am shy of spending real money (over $100) on an overseas purchase.

Steve

**pepperberry farm** · 06-16-2017, 05:14 PM

**pepperberry farm** · 06-17-2017, 05:05 AM - **2 Likes**

**pepperberry farm** · 06-17-2017, 08:09 PM - **2 Likes**

52b · 06-20-2017, 10:18 AM

I just picked up a 28A. (Actually 2) The first one had a stuck zoom. I tried to fix it myself but was unsuccessful. The aperture linkage arm was horribly bent and wasn't making contact properly with the aperture lever. So I bought a second and it seems like it's working properly.

Can't seem to find a copy of the manual anywhere. Does anyone have a copy of the 28A owner's manual or is willing to create a pdf scan of physical manaul?

**marcusBMG** · 06-20-2017, 10:42 AM

It's very similar to the 40A

http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/Adaptall/40A-UserManual.pdf

52b · 06-20-2017, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by marcusBMG

It's very similar to the 40A

http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/Adaptall/40A-UserManual.pdf

Thanks!

06-12-2017, 08:04 PM - 1 Like	#3377
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,766	K-3 with Tamron Adaptall-2 44A 28-70mm f3.5-4.5

06-15-2017, 03:18 AM - 2 Likes	#3381
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,766	K-3 with Tamron Adaptall-2 44A 28-70mm f3.5-4.5

06-16-2017, 05:14 PM	#3385
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,766	K-3 with Tamron Adaptall-2 44A 28-70mm f3.5-4.5

06-17-2017, 05:05 AM - 2 Likes	#3386
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,766	K-3 with Tamron Adaptall-2 44A 28-70mm f3.5-4.5

06-17-2017, 08:09 PM - 2 Likes	#3387
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,766	K-3 with Tamron Adaptall-2 44A 28-70mm f3.5-4.5

06-11-2017, 10:06 AM - 2 Likes	#3376
marcusBMG Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,869	I've been playing with my adaptall x-250mm zooms. These are 1:1 pixel peeping crops to illustrate. All at 250mm. Focus point was (attempted) to be on the eye(s). Samsung NX20. Z250: the big old 80-250mm, constant f3.8, clearly derived from the adaptamatic version given their similarity. A premium lens of its time.. F8. This old zoom is sharp! But soft wide open at this focus range (200mm, near infinity was much better - link below), and even on apsc dslr there is usually noticeable IQ loss away from the image centre. F3.8: Z250's successor, the QZ-825M (aka QZ-250M), 80-250mm f3.8-4.5. Also a 2 ring zoom, more compact, no tripod mount. Again impressive stopped down. But if anything even softer than the Z250 wide open, and more noticeable fringing/CA evident, most specifically on other test shots I did. Adaptall-2 75-250mm f3.8-4.5. there are two versions of this, I have the later 104A. This lens gives the most consistent results, and it is comfortably superior wide open. You can see the comparison at 200mm, all f-stops to f11, on my castle turret test page here. The performance of the Z250 is impressively the best to my eyes on this test.

06-13-2017, 07:10 PM	#3378
pacerr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Paris, TN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,350	The 40 and 44 are, in my opinion, very underrated lenses. Optically they'd be SP-quality, IME, if they were 2.8 lenses and the body wasn't early poly-carbonate designs. I've never encountered anyone with a bad opinion of them or heard of one with mechanical issues. As lower cost trial lenses for the then new designs in poly-carbonates Tamron was wisely cautious with marketing and soon produced similar enhanced models with very little benefit except marketing looks and 2.8 aperture. I've owned and enjoyed both for almost thiry-plus years on film and digital bodies. Both have played very well with the Tamron 1.4x TC and extension rings or close-up filters too. It's good to see 'em displayed as well this.

06-14-2017, 03:48 AM	#3379
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,766	Originally posted by pacerr The 40 and 44 are, in my opinion, very underrated lenses. Optically they'd be SP-quality, IME, if they were 2.8 lenses and the body wasn't early poly-carbonate designs. I've never encountered anyone with a bad opinion of them or heard of one with mechanical issues. As lower cost trial lenses for the then new designs in poly-carbonates Tamron was wisely cautious with marketing and soon produced similar enhanced models with very little benefit except marketing looks and 2.8 aperture. I've owned and enjoyed both for almost thiry-plus years on film and digital bodies. Both have played very well with the Tamron 1.4x TC and extension rings or close-up filters too. It's good to see 'em displayed as well this. I agree that the 44A is under-appreciated - I don't see many shots with them at all, either here or on flickr....

06-14-2017, 10:15 AM - 2 Likes	#3380
pacerr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Paris, TN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,350	Originally posted by pepperberry farm I don't see many shots with them at all, Maybe 'cause most folks don't want to admit to using lenses that sell 2-for-twenty-bucks used regardless of optical quality? My two started in a mishap investigation kit with a K1000, a cheap strobe and a set of close-up filters and never disappointed me.

06-15-2017, 09:42 AM	#3382
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by pepperberry farm Every time I see your photos taken with the 72B, I kick myself for not buying one when they were still available new. The supply of used ones seems to have totally dried up Steve

06-15-2017, 10:20 AM	#3383
pepperberry farm amateur dirt farmer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: probably out in a field somewhere... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 41,766	Originally posted by stevebrot Every time I see your photos taken with the 72B, I kick myself for not buying one when they were still available new. The supply of used ones seems to have totally dried up Steve occasionally on eBay, but more often I'll see one on KEH, or even Sunrise Camera....

06-15-2017, 10:50 AM - 1 Like	#3384
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by pepperberry farm occasionally on eBay, but more often I'll see one on KEH, or even Sunrise Camera.... There is one on eBay now, from Germany with a no-name Canon adapter for $201 USD, but I am shy of spending real money (over $100) on an overseas purchase. Steve

06-20-2017, 10:18 AM	#3388
52b Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 66	I just picked up a 28A. (Actually 2) The first one had a stuck zoom. I tried to fix it myself but was unsuccessful. The aperture linkage arm was horribly bent and wasn't making contact properly with the aperture lever. So I bought a second and it seems like it's working properly. Can't seem to find a copy of the manual anywhere. Does anyone have a copy of the 28A owner's manual or is willing to create a pdf scan of physical manaul?

06-20-2017, 10:42 AM	#3389
marcusBMG Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,869	It's very similar to the 40A http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/Adaptall/40A-UserManual.pdf

06-20-2017, 10:50 AM	#3390
52b Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 66	Originally posted by marcusBMG It's very similar to the 40A http://www.tremyfoel.co.uk/photography/Adaptall/40A-UserManual.pdf Thanks!

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