Post your ƒ1.2 Photos! (ƒ1.2 ONLY!)

gybp · 06-11-2010, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by yeatzee

hahaha i have two + my F/1.2 and im keeping em all. The size and weight difference is shocking so when I want to go light the F/1.2 stays at home.

whats the weight difference?

yeatzee · 06-11-2010, 11:37 AM

Its more than twice the weight

gybp · 06-11-2010, 01:18 PM

ok.. im anxious waiting for the lens to come...

Blue · 06-11-2010, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by gybp

whats the weight difference?

My FA 50mm f1.4 is 230 grams and the A 50mm f1.2 is 345 grams. I have an M 50mm f1.4 that is 235 grams and M 50mm f1.7 that is 190 grams.

axl · 06-14-2010, 12:08 AM

So here I am again.
Last week I bought DA*55 to replace my Ks 50/1.2 & 55/1.8. So far I have been happy with this lens, and it's usability leaps over that of Ks. My keeper ratio due to OOF is much better, and when it drizzles I'm fully confident in my now finally fully WRed combo.
BUT
... yesterday I finally had gotten some chance to have a go on some of my shots from my May holiday back home, and seeing those my heart sank

Do I really want to sell lens that renders this magic?

Mechan1k · 06-14-2010, 12:37 AM

Peter ... I really don't know why you are selling such a magic lens (other than recouping costs) ... if you can keep producing results like that ... there's no way I'd be parting with an awesome lens.

axl · 06-14-2010, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Mechan1k

Peter ... I really don't know why you are selling such a magic lens (other than recouping costs) ... if you can keep producing results like that ... there's no way I'd be parting with an awesome lens.

thanks Simon!
that's exactly what popped into my head while editing those pics:
Here is the "equation":
DA* - AF, WR, AE, (all in all perfect street lens, bring a lot of keepers, sharp and contrasty at f1.4)
K - IQ, OOF (this lens renders magic, and it's OOF is just BETTER than that of DA*55)

I missed a lot of shots due to my MF skills and f1.2 combo but those I got are superb! I have to say that optically K50/1.2 is right up there with FAltds if not higher!

So... IQ or practical usability????
That's the question....

PentHassyKon · 06-14-2010, 03:09 PM

Since you like the 55mm focal length, Why not get the Cosina 55/1.2 and you'll have your cake? 2 out of 3 (focal length, aperture = 2)

**gofour3** · 06-14-2010, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by axl

thanks Simon!
that's exactly what popped into my head while editing those pics:
Here is the "equation":
DA* - AF, WR, AE, (all in all perfect street lens, bring a lot of keepers, sharp and contrasty at f1.4)
K - IQ, OOF (this lens renders magic, and it's OOF is just BETTER than that of DA*55)

I missed a lot of shots due to my MF skills and f1.2 combo but those I got are superb! I have to say that optically K50/1.2 is right up there with FAltds if not higher!

So... IQ or practical usability????
That's the question....

Peter it looks like you have a good reason to keep both the K50/1.2 and the DA55/1.4!!
That would be my suggestion; I have numerous lenses in the 50-55mm FL range and use all of them. Some are better for certain conditions than others, the same scenario as yourself.

Phil.

axl · 06-14-2010, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by gofour3

Peter it looks like you have a good reason to keep both the K50/1.2 and the DA55/1.4!!
That would be my suggestion; I have numerous lenses in the 50-55mm FL range and use all of them. Some are better for certain conditions than others, the same scenario as yourself.

Phil.

this is true Phil,
I would love to keep both but my budget doesn't allow me to do so, and then if I'm going somewhere I don't want to be lugging around a ton of lenses (and bag with 10-20, 31, 43, 50/1.2, 55/1.4, 85/2 would come dangerously close to a ton!

).
after few days with the DA* I'm still at the square one on whether to keep it or not.... I have until wednesday to decide

All in all it's a great lens and if I'd never had 50/1.2 I'd be more than happy with it, but the OOF just can't match that of 50/1.2.....
decisions, decisions, decisions

axl · 06-14-2010, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by PentHassyKon

Since you like the 55mm focal length, Why not get the Cosina 55/1.2 and you'll have your cake? 2 out of 3 (focal length, aperture = 2)

I'm kind of sucker for Pentax labeled glass! The only reason why I'm keeping 10-20 is that Pentax doesn't have one that wide and if it had it would be super pricey!

yeatzee · 06-15-2010, 02:34 AM

Here's a quicky....

axl · 06-16-2010, 03:38 AM

OK, it looks like you guys will have to bear with me for bit longer!
Decided to keep the K50/1.2 and take the DA*55 back to shop...
will post shoot out results soon!

**Digitalis** · 06-16-2010, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by axl

OK, it looks like you guys will have to bear with me for bit longer!
Decided to keep the K50/1.2 and take the DA*55 back to shop...
will post shoot out results soon!

oh?....what caused this change of heart? Is the K 50mm f/1.2 THAT good? I wouldn't be surprised.

I have seen the K 50mm f/1.2 beat the pants of the zeiss planar 50mm f/1.4 even at f/4 - in terms of corner sharpness.

axl · 06-16-2010, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

oh?....what caused this change of heart? Is the K 50mm f/1.2 THAT good? I wouldn't be surprised.
......

indeed it is.
I mean the DA* is shaper and more contrasty but OOF rendering is pretty much incomparable, and since K responds well to sharpening, is well cropable etc....
anyway I came to conclusion that the DA* is not worth £500 price tag.
You can make your own conclusions:

"from the DA* club thread"
It was a tough one.
The DA* has tad better sharpness wide open and better contrast, but the K has better bokeh all the way from 1.2 to 5.6. It seems that guys at Pentax went bit over the top with corrections with the DA*55 and as results the OOF rendering suffers quite a bit IMO.

To show what I mean a quick set of pics:

DA* @1.4

K50/1.2 @1.2

K20/1.2 @1.4

These are 100% crops.
The figurine on the right side was the focusing point.
Please notice the highlight circles on the left and the part of the figurine right above the focus point. On both f stops the "old lady" wins IMO...

06-14-2010, 12:08 AM	#335
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Should I stay or should I go??? So here I am again. Last week I bought DA55 to replace my Ks 50/1.2 & 55/1.8. So far I have been happy with this lens, and it's usability leaps over that of Ks. My keeper ratio due to OOF is much better, and when it drizzles I'm fully confident in my now finally fully WRed combo. BUT* ... yesterday I finally had gotten some chance to have a go on some of my shots from my May holiday back home, and seeing those my heart sank Do I really want to sell lens that renders this magic? Last edited by axl; 06-16-2010 at 03:39 AM.

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06-11-2010, 04:00 AM	#331
gybp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 165	Originally posted by yeatzee hahaha i have two + my F/1.2 and im keeping em all. The size and weight difference is shocking so when I want to go light the F/1.2 stays at home. whats the weight difference?

06-11-2010, 11:37 AM	#332
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Its more than twice the weight

06-11-2010, 01:18 PM	#333
gybp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 165	ok.. im anxious waiting for the lens to come...

06-11-2010, 04:47 PM	#334
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by gybp whats the weight difference? My FA 50mm f1.4 is 230 grams and the A 50mm f1.2 is 345 grams. I have an M 50mm f1.4 that is 235 grams and M 50mm f1.7 that is 190 grams.

06-14-2010, 12:37 AM	#336
Mechan1k Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,891	Peter ... I really don't know why you are selling such a magic lens (other than recouping costs) ... if you can keep producing results like that ... there's no way I'd be parting with an awesome lens.

06-14-2010, 12:47 AM	#337
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by Mechan1k Peter ... I really don't know why you are selling such a magic lens (other than recouping costs) ... if you can keep producing results like that ... there's no way I'd be parting with an awesome lens. thanks Simon! that's exactly what popped into my head while editing those pics: Here is the "equation": DA* - AF, WR, AE, (all in all perfect street lens, bring a lot of keepers, sharp and contrasty at f1.4) K - IQ, OOF (this lens renders magic, and it's OOF is just BETTER than that of DA*55) I missed a lot of shots due to my MF skills and f1.2 combo but those I got are superb! I have to say that optically K50/1.2 is right up there with FAltds if not higher! So... IQ or practical usability???? That's the question....

06-14-2010, 03:09 PM	#338
PentHassyKon Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 415	Since you like the 55mm focal length, Why not get the Cosina 55/1.2 and you'll have your cake? 2 out of 3 (focal length, aperture = 2)

06-14-2010, 06:51 PM	#339
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by axl thanks Simon! that's exactly what popped into my head while editing those pics: Here is the "equation": DA* - AF, WR, AE, (all in all perfect street lens, bring a lot of keepers, sharp and contrasty at f1.4) K - IQ, OOF (this lens renders magic, and it's OOF is just BETTER than that of DA*55) I missed a lot of shots due to my MF skills and f1.2 combo but those I got are superb! I have to say that optically K50/1.2 is right up there with FAltds if not higher! So... IQ or practical usability???? That's the question.... Peter it looks like you have a good reason to keep both the K50/1.2 and the DA55/1.4!! That would be my suggestion; I have numerous lenses in the 50-55mm FL range and use all of them. Some are better for certain conditions than others, the same scenario as yourself. Phil.

06-14-2010, 11:41 PM	#340
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by gofour3 Peter it looks like you have a good reason to keep both the K50/1.2 and the DA55/1.4!! That would be my suggestion; I have numerous lenses in the 50-55mm FL range and use all of them. Some are better for certain conditions than others, the same scenario as yourself. Phil. this is true Phil, I would love to keep both but my budget doesn't allow me to do so, and then if I'm going somewhere I don't want to be lugging around a ton of lenses (and bag with 10-20, 31, 43, 50/1.2, 55/1.4, 85/2 would come dangerously close to a ton! ). after few days with the DA* I'm still at the square one on whether to keep it or not.... I have until wednesday to decide All in all it's a great lens and if I'd never had 50/1.2 I'd be more than happy with it, but the OOF just can't match that of 50/1.2..... decisions, decisions, decisions

06-14-2010, 11:43 PM	#341
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by PentHassyKon Since you like the 55mm focal length, Why not get the Cosina 55/1.2 and you'll have your cake? 2 out of 3 (focal length, aperture = 2) I'm kind of sucker for Pentax labeled glass! The only reason why I'm keeping 10-20 is that Pentax doesn't have one that wide and if it had it would be super pricey!

06-15-2010, 02:34 AM	#342
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Here's a quicky....

06-16-2010, 03:38 AM	#343
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	OK, it looks like you guys will have to bear with me for bit longer! Decided to keep the K50/1.2 and take the DA*55 back to shop... will post shoot out results soon!

06-16-2010, 05:24 AM	#344
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by axl OK, it looks like you guys will have to bear with me for bit longer! Decided to keep the K50/1.2 and take the DA55 back to shop... will post shoot out results soon! oh?....what caused this change of heart? Is the K 50mm f/1.2 THAT* good? I wouldn't be surprised. I have seen the K 50mm f/1.2 beat the pants of the zeiss planar 50mm f/1.4 even at f/4 - in terms of corner sharpness.

06-16-2010, 05:46 AM	#345
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Originally posted by Digitalis oh?....what caused this change of heart? Is the K 50mm f/1.2 THAT good? I wouldn't be surprised. ...... indeed it is. I mean the DA* is shaper and more contrasty but OOF rendering is pretty much incomparable, and since K responds well to sharpening, is well cropable etc.... anyway I came to conclusion that the DA* is not worth £500 price tag. You can make your own conclusions: "from the DA* club thread" It was a tough one. The DA* has tad better sharpness wide open and better contrast, but the K has better bokeh all the way from 1.2 to 5.6. It seems that guys at Pentax went bit over the top with corrections with the DA55 and as results the OOF rendering suffers quite a bit IMO. To show what I mean a quick set of pics: DA @1.4 K50/1.2 @1.2 K20/1.2 @1.4 These are 100% crops. The figurine on the right side was the focusing point. Please notice the highlight circles on the left and the part of the figurine right above the focus point. On both f stops the "old lady" wins IMO...