SIGMA 10-20mm CLUB

philbaum · 07-08-2011, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by Jewelltrail

Having shot with that very lens for a couple of years I can tell you it is not typical. I was always impressed with how well the 10-20 4-5.6 controlled flare, particularly when you consider the focal range. I am not someone to compose a shot with the Sun as the subject, but never had problems with flare in my shooting with this lens. That does not mean it will not flare--you must be mindful with the composition.

I think many folks shoot with a uv filter on this lens to protect the exposed element. I do use a filter and have seen this droplet kind of flare infrequently. Supposedly filters can contribute to flare problems but i have no before and after comparison shots.

**savoche** · 07-09-2011, 12:58 AM - **1 Like**

Playing with HDR...

**savoche** · 07-09-2011, 01:29 AM - **1 Like**

...and one more

Francis · 07-09-2011, 02:10 AM

Nice!

calicojack · 07-09-2011, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by savoche

Playing with HDR...

I like this one, but I don't care for your next one. I respect the amount of detail you were able to pull up in the tree tops but it makes the sky behind it very unnatural (impossibly unnatural IMO).
The first one (and most tone mapped HDR's) looks more like a drawing / painting than a photograph to me.

**savoche** · 07-09-2011, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by Francis

Nice!

Thanks

Originally posted by calicojack

I like this one, but I don't care for your next one. I respect the amount of detail you were able to pull up in the tree tops but it makes the sky behind it very unnatural (impossibly unnatural IMO).
The first one (and most tone mapped HDR's) looks more like a drawing / painting than a photograph to me.

Thanks, yes, I agree with you on the looks of tone mapped HDRs. I think one has to very careful, and probably more skilled and patient than I am, to achieve a natural look. But here I wanted the "painty" look.

The b/w one is done quite extremely too, with less thought of what looks natural. I tried to pull some 3D-ish effect out of it. It looks perhaps more like a pencil drawing than a photograph, really.

Both of them were experiments, though - my first attempt at doing anything HDR. I never thought handheld HDR could be this easy

Francis · 07-09-2011, 05:23 AM

I have never thought of HDR in terms of keeping it natural looking.

calicojack · 07-09-2011, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by savoche

Thanks

Both of them were experiments, though - my first attempt at doing anything HDR. I never thought handheld HDR could be this easy

Well, that first one is certainly a beautiful result for a first attempt / experiment.

**savoche** · 07-09-2011, 09:05 AM

An attempt to do a landscape. Not the most exciting of compositions - and a bit of haze obscuring the city centre and the distant hills, but there ya go...

jstevewhite · 07-09-2011, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Francis

I have never thought of HDR in terms of keeping it natural looking.

That's because many HDR images are not immediately recognizable as such. The painterly tone-mapped HDR and the glowy, electric HDR are artistic applications of technical tools. There's lots of crazy terminology problems (no JPG can truly be an HDR image, for instance - insufficient dynamic range; instead, they're artistic renderings of HDR information into non-hdr color space) obscuring the field. But you've seen many, many HDR images that were not recognizable as such.

Franki55 · 07-10-2011, 01:47 AM - **1 Like**

Na efektné zábery stačí niekedy iba statív a dobrý objekt, tu je pár záberov
z lacnej zábavy , vtedy ešte s K 100.

Francis · 07-10-2011, 02:40 AM

Those are very nice shots!

**savoche** · 07-10-2011, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by Francis

Those are very nice shots!

Agreed!

Designosophy · 07-10-2011, 01:18 PM

**jva59** · 07-10-2011, 06:31 PM - **1 Like**

I have, in fact, not the slightest reason to believe that anyone named
Bates has ever lived in this lovely house, which would look a lot less sinister if shot with something other than the great Sigma 10-20

07-10-2011, 01:47 AM - 1 Like	#1571
Franki55 New Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Slowak Republik, Bratislava Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18	[langtitle=sk]Sigma to night[/langtitle] Na efektné zábery stačí niekedy iba statív a dobrý objekt, tu je pár záberov z lacnej zábavy , vtedy ešte s K 100. Attached Images

07-10-2011, 06:31 PM - 1 Like	#1575
jva59 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,409	Bates family mansion? I have, in fact, not the slightest reason to believe that anyone named Bates has ever lived in this lovely house, which would look a lot less sinister if shot with something other than the great Sigma 10-20 Attached Images

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07-08-2011, 11:22 PM	#1561
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Originally posted by Jewelltrail Having shot with that very lens for a couple of years I can tell you it is not typical. I was always impressed with how well the 10-20 4-5.6 controlled flare, particularly when you consider the focal range. I am not someone to compose a shot with the Sun as the subject, but never had problems with flare in my shooting with this lens. That does not mean it will not flare--you must be mindful with the composition. I think many folks shoot with a uv filter on this lens to protect the exposed element. I do use a filter and have seen this droplet kind of flare infrequently. Supposedly filters can contribute to flare problems but i have no before and after comparison shots.

07-09-2011, 12:58 AM - 1 Like	#1562
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Playing with HDR...

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savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	...and one more

07-09-2011, 02:10 AM	#1564
Francis Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hilversum Photos: Gallery Posts: 215	Nice!

07-09-2011, 04:09 AM	#1565
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by savoche Playing with HDR... I like this one, but I don't care for your next one. I respect the amount of detail you were able to pull up in the tree tops but it makes the sky behind it very unnatural (impossibly unnatural IMO). The first one (and most tone mapped HDR's) looks more like a drawing / painting than a photograph to me.

07-09-2011, 04:45 AM	#1566
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by Francis Nice! Thanks Originally posted by calicojack I like this one, but I don't care for your next one. I respect the amount of detail you were able to pull up in the tree tops but it makes the sky behind it very unnatural (impossibly unnatural IMO). The first one (and most tone mapped HDR's) looks more like a drawing / painting than a photograph to me. Thanks, yes, I agree with you on the looks of tone mapped HDRs. I think one has to very careful, and probably more skilled and patient than I am, to achieve a natural look. But here I wanted the "painty" look. The b/w one is done quite extremely too, with less thought of what looks natural. I tried to pull some 3D-ish effect out of it. It looks perhaps more like a pencil drawing than a photograph, really. Both of them were experiments, though - my first attempt at doing anything HDR. I never thought handheld HDR could be this easy

07-09-2011, 05:23 AM	#1567
Francis Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hilversum Photos: Gallery Posts: 215	I have never thought of HDR in terms of keeping it natural looking.

07-09-2011, 05:43 AM	#1568
calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by savoche Thanks Both of them were experiments, though - my first attempt at doing anything HDR. I never thought handheld HDR could be this easy Well, that first one is certainly a beautiful result for a first attempt / experiment.

07-09-2011, 09:05 AM	#1569
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	An attempt to do a landscape. Not the most exciting of compositions - and a bit of haze obscuring the city centre and the distant hills, but there ya go...

07-09-2011, 10:19 AM	#1570
jstevewhite Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Midwest Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,407	Originally posted by Francis I have never thought of HDR in terms of keeping it natural looking. That's because many HDR images are not immediately recognizable as such. The painterly tone-mapped HDR and the glowy, electric HDR are artistic applications of technical tools. There's lots of crazy terminology problems (no JPG can truly be an HDR image, for instance - insufficient dynamic range; instead, they're artistic renderings of HDR information into non-hdr color space) obscuring the field. But you've seen many, many HDR images that were not recognizable as such.

07-10-2011, 02:40 AM	#1572
Francis Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hilversum Photos: Gallery Posts: 215	Those are very nice shots!

07-10-2011, 03:34 AM	#1573
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by Francis Those are very nice shots! Agreed!

07-10-2011, 01:18 PM	#1574
Designosophy Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northeast Philadelphia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,137