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05-05-2011, 04:17 AM   #1381
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Its all about perspective !

NICE! VERY NICE...

Too bad I'm at work, the monitor here doesn't do it justice.

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Stunning

Wow what a stunning shot! First glance the big roap anchor tie down. Then 2nd look the sky, tnen the mountains, i see something new everytime I look.
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A beautiful shot to start the day and a new page.
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Love that pic!

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Thanks all ! Its' depth of focus is amazing, You can see everything is in focus from 20 cm to infinity !
And that was at 1/200 - f/6.3 - 10mm

I love this lense!

ps. OK the sky is a litle blown out...
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ps. OK the sky is a litle blown out...
It looks perfect just the way it is.
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After going through this thread and the 8-16 thread, I don't feel like I need the extra field of view offered by the 8-16. It seems, if such a thing is possible, too wide. The 10-20 looks just right for me. I was also considering the DA 14 f/2.8 (for similar price to the 10-20), but the difference between 14mm and 10mm is huge.

Now I'm trying to decide between the f/3.5 constant aperture version and the f/4-5.6 version. I was leaning toward the 3.5, but the thought of what I could get for the $170 difference has me thinking...

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QuoteOriginally posted by Designosophy Quote
After going through this thread and the 8-16 thread, I don't feel like I need the extra field of view offered by the 8-16. It seems, if such a thing is possible, too wide. The 10-20 looks just right for me. I was also considering the DA 14 f/2.8 (for similar price to the 10-20), but the difference between 14mm and 10mm is huge.

Now I'm trying to decide between the f/3.5 constant aperture version and the f/4-5.6 version. I was leaning toward the 3.5, but the thought of what I could get for the $170 difference has me thinking...
I couldn't decide between the two and I ended up getting the f/4-5.6 variety because I came across a few references of it's IQ being better than the f/3.5. I would like to see a head to head test to see if that's true. I was getting it for landscapes also, so I wasn't that concerned about the wider aperture. It was nice saving the money also.
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<snip> Now I'm trying to decide between the f/3.5 constant aperture version and the f/4-5.6 version. I was leaning toward the 3.5, but the thought of what I could get for the $170 difference has me thinking...
My take on the general concencus is that the F4-5.6 version is actually better. You'll probably not be shooting wide open anyway. It's one of those rare times when you can think,....... Save the extra money and get the better product (IMHO).
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Kyramas: Its all about perspective !
Smoking eye candy!

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Designosophy After going through this thread and the 8-16 thread, I don't feel like I need the extra field of view offered by the 8-16. It seems, if such a thing is possible, too wide. The 10-20 looks just right for me. I was also considering the DA 14 f/2.8 (for similar price to the 10-20), but the difference between 14mm and 10mm is huge.

Now I'm trying to decide between the f/3.5 constant aperture version and the f/4-5.6 version. I was leaning toward the 3.5, but the thought of what I could get for the $170 difference has me thinking...
I agree with Calico Jack, the consensus and Photozone for that matter--the 4-5.6 version is better, especially @ 10mm (where it really matters) in the borders. However, for more consistently accurate AF, the HSM of the 3.5 version is probably better. As alwys, it depends on where your priorities are.

I have shot some full frame Ultra Wide on my new d700 this week. Using the 20mm (of my 20-35 Tokina) which translates to about what you would see @ 14mm on crop sensor. You are correct, the difference between 10mm & 14mm is drastic! I have sold off 15 lenses to move into FF, but still have my 10-20mm Sigma & K20d---it would be a difficult lens to let go of, it grows on you.
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QuoteOriginally posted by calicojack Quote
My take on the general concencus is that the F4-5.6 version is actually better.
QuoteOriginally posted by Jewelltrail Quote
I agree with Calico Jack, the consensus and Photozone for that matter--the 4-5.6 version is better, especially @ 10mm (where it really matters) in the borders.
This is good to know. Unfortunately, I won't be buying the lens for a while. Last night I made an impulse bid on ebay for a lens at the other end of the FL spectrum (SMC M 400/5.6), and I won. Ugh. What was I thinking?

QuoteOriginally posted by Jewelltrail Quote
I have shot some full frame Ultra Wide on my new d700 this week.
Congrats on the new rig! Hope to see some photos on Flickr (or somewhere).
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This is good to know. Unfortunately, I won't be buying the lens for a while. Last night I made an impulse bid on ebay for a lens at the other end of the FL spectrum (SMC M 400/5.6), and I won. Ugh. What was I thinking?


Congrats on the new addition. Now that you can pick out the small details your next move is back to the BIG picture.
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This is good to know. Unfortunately, I won't be buying the lens for a while.
I don't agree that the slower 10-20 is the better one optically. IIRC, the constant aperture (faster) version is ahead in many optical disciplines and only behind in one or two (CA?) that can be corrected with software. Sorry for not being precise here, but I'm writing from memory. I got the constant aperture version, because it
  • is optically better in many disciplines.
  • has HSM (and hence the equivalent of Quickshift).
  • has an odd number of aperture blades. The latter allows for much nicer star burst effects (see below).
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thanks for sharing…

this picture is just WOW!
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I don't agree that the slower 10-20 is the better one optically. IIRC, the constant aperture (faster) version is ahead in many optical disciplines and only behind in one or two (CA?) that can be corrected with software. Sorry for not being precise here, but I'm writing from memory. I got the constant aperture version, because it
  • is optically better in many disciplines.
  • has HSM (and hence the equivalent of Quickshift).
  • has an odd number of aperture blades. The latter allows for much nicer star burst effects (see below).
Hey Class A, that is a fantastic shot! You make a great point about the new version, particularly since it offers constant 3.5, HSM, and better vignetting control. I should know better than to call 1 lens better than another--better is always determined by one's needs. Let me qualify my statement--both versions are comparable in MTF scores, except that the 4-5.6 enjoys a big advantage @ 10mm, in extreme borders. Also, 4-5.6, as you mentioned, has better grip on CA, & more attractive price. Finally, Photozone gives the nod to the 4-5.6 version.

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