The 15mm Limited controls my mind - club

greymda · 11-30-2010, 07:42 AM

andi, got a question, though

how much PP are on those two pictures (beach and rocks)?

cgeiser · 12-01-2010, 06:59 PM

Seems like mixed reviews of the 15mm. Any other recommendations for that wide or wider for landscapes?
Thanks!

JHD · 12-01-2010, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by cgeiser

Seems like mixed reviews of the 15mm. Any other recommendations for that wide or wider for landscapes?
Thanks!

I sold my DA15 after seeing the same shot taken by the DA 16-45. I don't have any use for bling so letting it go was an easy decision. I have a Sigma 10-20 and those 5 extra mils go a looooooong way. The Sigma's IQ is every bit as good as the DA15. Easy decision and no regrets.

Eagle_Friends · 12-01-2010, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by JHD

I sold my DA15 after seeing the same shot taken by the DA 16-45. I don't have any use for bling so letting it go was an easy decision. I have a Sigma 10-20 and those 5 extra mils go a looooooong way. The Sigma's IQ is every bit as good as the DA15. Easy decision and no regrets.

I'm assuming you're referring to the f3.5 version.

But for me, I would prefer the DA 15 for its size, its quality, and most of all, I'm just a prime person.

Quicksand · 12-02-2010, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by cgeiser

Seems like mixed reviews of the 15mm.

Yeah, pretty evenly divided between "fantastic" and "amazing."

paperbag846 · 12-02-2010, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Quicksand

Yeah, pretty evenly divided between "fantastic" and "amazing."

I think, when it comes right down to it, that the major major advantage the DA 15 has over zooms is the size (which is considerable). I'm under the impression that the IQ differences are pretty non-existent.

That said, I will be buying the DA 15, because every other alternative is a bulky zoom!

JHD · 12-02-2010, 04:23 AM

Originally posted by Eagle_Friends

I'm assuming you're referring to the f3.5 version.

But for me, I would prefer the DA 15 for its size, its quality, and most of all, I'm just a prime person.

Nope, I have the f4 version.

I like primes too, but the DA 15 doesn't perform like a prime and that's why dpreview gave an under whelming review.

**dadipentak** · 12-02-2010, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by paperbag846

I think, when it comes right down to it, that the major major advantage the DA 15 has over zooms is the size (which is considerable). I'm under the impression that the IQ differences are pretty non-existent.

That said, I will be buying the DA 15, because every other alternative is a bulky zoom!

Yep, that's why I sold the Sigma 10-20 and bought the DA 15.

JHD · 12-02-2010, 06:31 AM

Selling a 10-20 for a DA15 is like selling a Bigma for 100mm lens.

**mattb123** · 12-02-2010, 10:21 AM

I think this one got lost in the server move so I'm adding it again.

jsherman999 · 12-02-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by paperbag846

I think, when it comes right down to it, that the major major advantage the DA 15 has over zooms is the size (which is considerable). I'm under the impression that the IQ differences are pretty non-existent.

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The difference is not non-existent, though, at least with the kit lens, the 16-50 2.8, and the DA 16-45. The DA 15ltd is sharper at f/4. The 12-24 is almost as sharp at 15mm, but larger, more expensive, and with worse response to flare. I can't speak about the Sigma 10-20 & 8-16, because I haven't owned them, but again, size & flare are never going to match the DA 15 even if sharpness does.

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Quote:

That said, I will be buying the DA 15, because every other alternative is a bulky zoom!

Congrats!

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gnaztee · 12-02-2010, 10:52 AM - **1 Like**

Hiking mostly through water in a drysuit last weekend, needed something wide enough for the Narrows, but small enough to fit in my rented dry bag. Tripod, K-7 and 15 Ltd with a ND screw-on. These are a couple of the many photos from our 5-hour hike.

**mattb123** · 12-02-2010, 11:19 AM

Those are really nice gnaztee. And 5 hours hiking in a dry suit sounds pretty clammy!

What ND filter did you use?
What dry bag? As in was it a white water dry bag you take the camera out of to shoot, or was it one your camera "wears" while you shoot?

gnaztee · 12-02-2010, 11:36 AM

Actually, considering the air temp was in the 20s and the water temp at 36, I would call the dry suit "comfortable"

Filter is a B+W 4-stop

edit: oops, dry bag was just a roll-top closure, like a whitewater bag. Actually, I didn't need it so much as the water levels were never above thigh-high and I managed not to fall over any rocks. In fact, I carried my tripod over my shoulder with the camera mounted the entire hike back out of the canyon.

paperbag846 · 12-02-2010, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by jsherman999

The difference is not non-existent, though, at least with the kit lens, the 16-50 2.8, and the DA 16-45. The DA 15ltd is sharper at f/4. The 12-24 is almost as sharp at 15mm, but larger, more expensive, and with worse response to flare. I can't speak about the Sigma 10-20 & 8-16, because I haven't owned them, but again, size & flare are never going to match the DA 15 even if sharpness does.

I appologize for not making myself clear... I was referring only to the UWA zooms. From the samples I've seen, the DA 15 is much sharper than the normal zooms that hit 16. Forgot to mention the superior flare rejection that comes with the smaller number of lens elements.

12-02-2010, 10:52 AM - 1 Like	#1167
gnaztee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 772	Zion Narrows Hiking mostly through water in a drysuit last weekend, needed something wide enough for the Narrows, but small enough to fit in my rented dry bag. Tripod, K-7 and 15 Ltd with a ND screw-on. These are a couple of the many photos from our 5-hour hike. Last edited by gnaztee; 12-29-2010 at 07:33 AM. Reason: Updated photo links

12-02-2010, 11:36 AM	#1169
gnaztee Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 772	Actually, considering the air temp was in the 20s and the water temp at 36, I would call the dry suit "comfortable" Filter is a B+W 4-stop edit: oops, dry bag was just a roll-top closure, like a whitewater bag. Actually, I didn't need it so much as the water levels were never above thigh-high and I managed not to fall over any rocks. In fact, I carried my tripod over my shoulder with the camera mounted the entire hike back out of the canyon. Last edited by gnaztee; 12-02-2010 at 11:39 AM. Reason: added

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JHD Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by cgeiser Seems like mixed reviews of the 15mm. Any other recommendations for that wide or wider for landscapes? Thanks! I sold my DA15 after seeing the same shot taken by the DA 16-45. I don't have any use for bling so letting it go was an easy decision. I have a Sigma 10-20 and those 5 extra mils go a looooooong way. The Sigma's IQ is every bit as good as the DA15. Easy decision and no regrets.

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Eagle_Friends Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 971	Originally posted by JHD I sold my DA15 after seeing the same shot taken by the DA 16-45. I don't have any use for bling so letting it go was an easy decision. I have a Sigma 10-20 and those 5 extra mils go a looooooong way. The Sigma's IQ is every bit as good as the DA15. Easy decision and no regrets. I'm assuming you're referring to the f3.5 version. But for me, I would prefer the DA 15 for its size, its quality, and most of all, I'm just a prime person.

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Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	Originally posted by cgeiser Seems like mixed reviews of the 15mm. Yeah, pretty evenly divided between "fantastic" and "amazing."

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paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	Originally posted by Quicksand Yeah, pretty evenly divided between "fantastic" and "amazing." I think, when it comes right down to it, that the major major advantage the DA 15 has over zooms is the size (which is considerable). I'm under the impression that the IQ differences are pretty non-existent. That said, I will be buying the DA 15, because every other alternative is a bulky zoom!

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JHD Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,406	Originally posted by Eagle_Friends I'm assuming you're referring to the f3.5 version. But for me, I would prefer the DA 15 for its size, its quality, and most of all, I'm just a prime person. Nope, I have the f4 version. I like primes too, but the DA 15 doesn't perform like a prime and that's why dpreview gave an under whelming review.

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dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by paperbag846 I think, when it comes right down to it, that the major major advantage the DA 15 has over zooms is the size (which is considerable). I'm under the impression that the IQ differences are pretty non-existent. That said, I will be buying the DA 15, because every other alternative is a bulky zoom! Yep, that's why I sold the Sigma 10-20 and bought the DA 15.

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JHD Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,406	Selling a 10-20 for a DA15 is like selling a Bigma for 100mm lens.

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12-02-2010, 10:39 AM	#1166
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by paperbag846 I think, when it comes right down to it, that the major major advantage the DA 15 has over zooms is the size (which is considerable). I'm under the impression that the IQ differences are pretty non-existent. . The difference is not non-existent, though, at least with the kit lens, the 16-50 2.8, and the DA 16-45. The DA 15ltd is sharper at f/4. The 12-24 is almost as sharp at 15mm, but larger, more expensive, and with worse response to flare. I can't speak about the Sigma 10-20 & 8-16, because I haven't owned them, but again, size & flare are never going to match the DA 15 even if sharpness does. . Quote: That said, I will be buying the DA 15, because every other alternative is a bulky zoom! Congrats! .

12-02-2010, 11:19 AM	#1168
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,872	Those are really nice gnaztee. And 5 hours hiking in a dry suit sounds pretty clammy! What ND filter did you use? What dry bag? As in was it a white water dry bag you take the camera out of to shoot, or was it one your camera "wears" while you shoot?

12-02-2010, 12:33 PM	#1170
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	Originally posted by jsherman999 The difference is not non-existent, though, at least with the kit lens, the 16-50 2.8, and the DA 16-45. The DA 15ltd is sharper at f/4. The 12-24 is almost as sharp at 15mm, but larger, more expensive, and with worse response to flare. I can't speak about the Sigma 10-20 & 8-16, because I haven't owned them, but again, size & flare are never going to match the DA 15 even if sharpness does. I appologize for not making myself clear... I was referring only to the UWA zooms. From the samples I've seen, the DA 15 is much sharper than the normal zooms that hit 16. Forgot to mention the superior flare rejection that comes with the smaller number of lens elements.