ASAP: Metz 50 vs Pentax 360fgz

SirJangly · 05-25-2011, 10:07 PM

Hey guys, if both are the same price, which is the better flash? Need to know asap, thanks in advance!

wlachan · 05-25-2011, 10:10 PM

Metz.

SirJangly · 05-25-2011, 10:12 PM

Please provide reasons if possible

Convince me if you'd like. I just want whatever is of better quality and value.

yeatzee · 05-25-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by wlachan

Metz.

This. I have the Metz 48 (replaced by the 50) and the pentax 360. They compliment each other very well for macro work but if I could only have one there's no question it'd be the Metz. Its just better in nearly every way.

SirJangly · 05-25-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

This. I have the Metz 48 (replaced by the 50) and the pentax 360. They compliment each other very well for macro work but if I could only have one there's no question it'd be the Metz.

Could you tell me why please? I know the 50 can swivel and has more power, but isn't the interface very clumsy?

yeatzee · 05-25-2011, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by SirJangly

Could you tell me why please? I know the 50 can swivel and has more power, but isn't the interface very clumsy?

Build alone makes the METZ 1000x better than the pentax. The interface is fine just takes a little getting used to. It can be dropped to 1/128 power which opens huge possibilities also. Plus they actually give updates to their flashes which is incredible. The extra power is very nice, swivel and tilt is fantastic as well. Im a firm believer in Metz flashes now, and wish I bought the metz instead of the pentax originally as it would have saved me a lot of headache.

SirJangly · 05-25-2011, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

Build alone makes the METZ 1000x better than the pentax. The interface is fine just takes a little getting used to. It can be dropped to 1/128 power which opens huge possibilities also. Plus they actually give updates to their flashes which is incredible. The extra power is very nice, swivel and tilt is fantastic as well. Im a firm believer in Metz flashes now, and wish I bought the metz instead of the pentax originally as it would have saved me a lot of headache.

Just curious, what possibilites does the 1/128 power open up? Also, how is the AF illuminator? I have a K-x so this feature is a big deal to me, and I've read it's almost useless on the metz.

yeatzee · 05-25-2011, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by SirJangly

Just curious, what possibilites does the 1/128 power open up? Also, how is the AF illuminator? I have a K-x so this feature is a big deal to me, and I've read it's almost useless on the metz.

Highspeed photography.

I don't know how its a big deal for the K-x. Are you referring to the red cross-section light? I haven't used it for "regular" use since after I immediately got it. I don't recall any issues but I can't say definitively if its "useless" or not. I know the Pentax's works fine.

SirJangly · 05-25-2011, 10:39 PM

I am referring to the red light that assists focusing in low-light conditions

Oh is the 1/128 power just a very fast flash?

yeatzee · 05-25-2011, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by SirJangly

I am referring to the red light that assists focusing in low-light conditions

Oh is the 1/128 power just a very fast flash?

Its equivalent shutter speed is MUCH faster than any camera shutter is capable of allowing you to freeze stuff in action.

Kim C · 05-25-2011, 10:48 PM

More or less, The flash duration is about the same but there is less light output and so you use less power and there is less to replace and so recycling is quick. Also you can get many low power flashes on the intial charge. On the AF400T, you could select 1/25 power. With that, you could get about 10 shots with the motor drive running.

Another advantage is that you can reduce the power which makes balancing fill in flash much easier. Effectively you decide on the aperture rather than being forced to use the one "effectively" set by the flash.

Kim

Originally posted by SirJangly

Oh is the 1/128 power just a very fast flash?

SirJangly · 05-25-2011, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Kim C

More or less, The flash duration is about the same but there is less light output and so you use less power and there is less to replace and so recycling is quick. Also you can get many low power flashes on the intial charge. On the AF400T, you could select 1/25 power. With that, you could get about 10 shots with the motor drive running.

Another advantage is that you can reduce the power which makes balancing fill in flash much easier. Effectively you decide on the aperture rather than being forced to use the one "effectively" set by the flash.

Kim

I see, thanks

I'm still curious about the AF illuminator. Also, I plan on using this at a wedding, would the metz still be better?

yeatzee · 05-25-2011, 10:50 PM

Oh one more thing, the metz recharges much faster

SirJangly · 05-25-2011, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by yeatzee

Oh one more thing, the metz recharges much faster

time between shots?

yeatzee · 05-25-2011, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by SirJangly

time between shots?

yes...

05-25-2011, 10:07 PM	#1
SirJangly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Antioch, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 197	ASAP: Metz 50 vs Pentax 360fgz Hey guys, if both are the same price, which is the better flash? Need to know asap, thanks in advance!

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wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	Metz.

05-25-2011, 10:12 PM	#3
SirJangly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Antioch, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 197 Original Poster	Please provide reasons if possible Convince me if you'd like. I just want whatever is of better quality and value.

05-25-2011, 10:15 PM	#4
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by wlachan Metz. This. I have the Metz 48 (replaced by the 50) and the pentax 360. They compliment each other very well for macro work but if I could only have one there's no question it'd be the Metz. Its just better in nearly every way.

05-25-2011, 10:15 PM	#5
SirJangly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Antioch, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 197 Original Poster	Originally posted by yeatzee This. I have the Metz 48 (replaced by the 50) and the pentax 360. They compliment each other very well for macro work but if I could only have one there's no question it'd be the Metz. Could you tell me why please? I know the 50 can swivel and has more power, but isn't the interface very clumsy?

05-25-2011, 10:21 PM	#6
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by SirJangly Could you tell me why please? I know the 50 can swivel and has more power, but isn't the interface very clumsy? Build alone makes the METZ 1000x better than the pentax. The interface is fine just takes a little getting used to. It can be dropped to 1/128 power which opens huge possibilities also. Plus they actually give updates to their flashes which is incredible. The extra power is very nice, swivel and tilt is fantastic as well. Im a firm believer in Metz flashes now, and wish I bought the metz instead of the pentax originally as it would have saved me a lot of headache.

05-25-2011, 10:23 PM	#7
SirJangly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Antioch, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 197 Original Poster	Originally posted by yeatzee Build alone makes the METZ 1000x better than the pentax. The interface is fine just takes a little getting used to. It can be dropped to 1/128 power which opens huge possibilities also. Plus they actually give updates to their flashes which is incredible. The extra power is very nice, swivel and tilt is fantastic as well. Im a firm believer in Metz flashes now, and wish I bought the metz instead of the pentax originally as it would have saved me a lot of headache. Just curious, what possibilites does the 1/128 power open up? Also, how is the AF illuminator? I have a K-x so this feature is a big deal to me, and I've read it's almost useless on the metz.

05-25-2011, 10:32 PM	#8
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by SirJangly Just curious, what possibilites does the 1/128 power open up? Also, how is the AF illuminator? I have a K-x so this feature is a big deal to me, and I've read it's almost useless on the metz. Highspeed photography. I don't know how its a big deal for the K-x. Are you referring to the red cross-section light? I haven't used it for "regular" use since after I immediately got it. I don't recall any issues but I can't say definitively if its "useless" or not. I know the Pentax's works fine.

05-25-2011, 10:39 PM	#9
SirJangly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Antioch, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 197 Original Poster	I am referring to the red light that assists focusing in low-light conditions Oh is the 1/128 power just a very fast flash?

05-25-2011, 10:45 PM	#10
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by SirJangly I am referring to the red light that assists focusing in low-light conditions Oh is the 1/128 power just a very fast flash? Its equivalent shutter speed is MUCH faster than any camera shutter is capable of allowing you to freeze stuff in action.

05-25-2011, 10:48 PM	#11
Kim C Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lincoln, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 229	More or less, The flash duration is about the same but there is less light output and so you use less power and there is less to replace and so recycling is quick. Also you can get many low power flashes on the intial charge. On the AF400T, you could select 1/25 power. With that, you could get about 10 shots with the motor drive running. Another advantage is that you can reduce the power which makes balancing fill in flash much easier. Effectively you decide on the aperture rather than being forced to use the one "effectively" set by the flash. Kim Originally posted by SirJangly Oh is the 1/128 power just a very fast flash?

05-25-2011, 10:49 PM	#12
SirJangly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Antioch, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 197 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kim C More or less, The flash duration is about the same but there is less light output and so you use less power and there is less to replace and so recycling is quick. Also you can get many low power flashes on the intial charge. On the AF400T, you could select 1/25 power. With that, you could get about 10 shots with the motor drive running. Another advantage is that you can reduce the power which makes balancing fill in flash much easier. Effectively you decide on the aperture rather than being forced to use the one "effectively" set by the flash. Kim I see, thanks I'm still curious about the AF illuminator. Also, I plan on using this at a wedding, would the metz still be better?

05-25-2011, 10:50 PM	#13
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Oh one more thing, the metz recharges much faster

05-25-2011, 11:04 PM	#14
SirJangly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Antioch, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 197 Original Poster	Originally posted by yeatzee Oh one more thing, the metz recharges much faster time between shots?

05-25-2011, 11:06 PM	#15
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by SirJangly time between shots? yes...