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adwb · 11-22-2011, 05:55 AM

Is there any flash unit that will keep up with camera in continious shooting mode [HI speed]? mains or battery?

I have found setting a speed gun on minimum output it sort of works but the continious shutter rate slows right down.

It seems unlikly as they all use, I assume, some form of capacitor charging system, but I ask just in case there is something out there

hoanpham · 11-22-2011, 06:52 AM

I used to bundle multiple flash units at lower power, depends on the power needed.

Say 7fps, approx 5 seconds recycle time, then you may need to set 1/32 power with one unit. If that's too dim, use 2 units each 1/32 power.
4 units with 1/8 power in total. The limitation is the camera. It slows down when the internal buffer is filled up...

adwb · 11-22-2011, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by hoanpham

I used to bundle multiple flash units at lower power, depends on the power needed.

Say 7fps, approx 5 seconds recycle time, then you may need to set 1/32 power with one unit. If that's too dim, use 2 units each 1/32 power.
4 units with 1/8 power in total. The limitation is the camera. It slows down when the internal buffer is filled up...

Yes understood, thank you. I have done that it's the 5 seconds recycle time I want to cut down.

I read something some where about high speed flash but I can't find it now.

D W · 11-22-2011, 07:30 AM

There are Quantum, Lumedyne units (US) that will give you more power and faster recycle. Bowen in UK has a battery powered unit at 600WS.

The weight of the circuitry means and external powerpack/supply and the flash head on camera. Also the cost is higher.

claimed4all · 11-22-2011, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by adwb

Yes understood, thank you. I have done that it's the 5 seconds recycle time I want to cut down.

I read something some where about high speed flash but I can't find it now.

For High Speed Flash, did you read about High Speed Sync? High Speed Sync allows you to use a flash with a shutter speed faster than 1/180sec. It does not allow you to take faster pictures in a row, just a faster shutter.

adwb · 11-22-2011, 05:27 PM

it's the in a row i'm after

D W · 11-22-2011, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by adwb

it's the in a row i'm after

Bron had an AC powered unit that give you 5 full power 600J flash per second. It was not cheap and not many were sold. Most of the reputable rental houses world wide stock it for rental. It was not something one would invest in but rent on a job demand basis.

alohadave · 11-23-2011, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by adwb

Is there any flash unit that will keep up with camera in continious shooting mode [HI speed]? mains or battery?

I have found setting a speed gun on minimum output it sort of works but the continious shutter rate slows right down.

It seems unlikly as they all use, I assume, some form of capacitor charging system, but I ask just in case there is something out there

Change your shooting conditions so that you can shoot at lower power. If you need to pop at full power, it will never work unless you have really specialized flashes. Going to lower power will allow the flash to fire several pops at a time.

Using lower power will also decrease your odds of overheating your flash.

SLStudios · 11-23-2011, 12:38 PM

Is there a way to alternate flash units?

adwb · 11-24-2011, 02:30 AM

interesting concept and could well be a solution.

11-22-2011, 05:55 AM	#1
adwb Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bristol UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,636	high speed flash Is there any flash unit that will keep up with camera in continious shooting mode [HI speed]? mains or battery? I have found setting a speed gun on minimum output it sort of works but the continious shutter rate slows right down. It seems unlikly as they all use, I assume, some form of capacitor charging system, but I ask just in case there is something out there

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11-22-2011, 06:52 AM	#2
hoanpham Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Strand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,366	I used to bundle multiple flash units at lower power, depends on the power needed. Say 7fps, approx 5 seconds recycle time, then you may need to set 1/32 power with one unit. If that's too dim, use 2 units each 1/32 power. 4 units with 1/8 power in total. The limitation is the camera. It slows down when the internal buffer is filled up...

11-22-2011, 07:19 AM	#3
adwb Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bristol UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,636 Original Poster	Originally posted by hoanpham I used to bundle multiple flash units at lower power, depends on the power needed. Say 7fps, approx 5 seconds recycle time, then you may need to set 1/32 power with one unit. If that's too dim, use 2 units each 1/32 power. 4 units with 1/8 power in total. The limitation is the camera. It slows down when the internal buffer is filled up... Yes understood, thank you. I have done that it's the 5 seconds recycle time I want to cut down. I read something some where about high speed flash but I can't find it now.

11-22-2011, 07:30 AM	#4
D W Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hogtown, ON, Canada Posts: 329	There are Quantum, Lumedyne units (US) that will give you more power and faster recycle. Bowen in UK has a battery powered unit at 600WS. The weight of the circuitry means and external powerpack/supply and the flash head on camera. Also the cost is higher.

11-22-2011, 11:22 AM	#5
claimed4all Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Rapids Michigan Posts: 96	Originally posted by adwb Yes understood, thank you. I have done that it's the 5 seconds recycle time I want to cut down. I read something some where about high speed flash but I can't find it now. For High Speed Flash, did you read about High Speed Sync? High Speed Sync allows you to use a flash with a shutter speed faster than 1/180sec. It does not allow you to take faster pictures in a row, just a faster shutter.

11-22-2011, 05:27 PM	#6
adwb Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bristol UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,636 Original Poster	it's the in a row i'm after

11-22-2011, 06:10 PM	#7
D W Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hogtown, ON, Canada Posts: 329	Originally posted by adwb it's the in a row i'm after Bron had an AC powered unit that give you 5 full power 600J flash per second. It was not cheap and not many were sold. Most of the reputable rental houses world wide stock it for rental. It was not something one would invest in but rent on a job demand basis.

11-23-2011, 06:02 AM	#8
alohadave Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Quincy, MA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,024	Originally posted by adwb Is there any flash unit that will keep up with camera in continious shooting mode [HI speed]? mains or battery? I have found setting a speed gun on minimum output it sort of works but the continious shutter rate slows right down. It seems unlikly as they all use, I assume, some form of capacitor charging system, but I ask just in case there is something out there Change your shooting conditions so that you can shoot at lower power. If you need to pop at full power, it will never work unless you have really specialized flashes. Going to lower power will allow the flash to fire several pops at a time. Using lower power will also decrease your odds of overheating your flash.

11-23-2011, 12:38 PM	#9
SLStudios New Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Portland, OR Photos: Albums Posts: 3	Is there a way to alternate flash units?

11-24-2011, 02:30 AM	#10
adwb Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bristol UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,636 Original Poster	interesting concept and could well be a solution.