Trigger remote flash without popping up built in flash

godavari · 10-10-2012, 02:17 PM

I use AF360 flash with K-5. Wondering how can I trigger the flash remotely without having to pop up the built-in flash. Thanks in advance.

**jatrax** · 10-10-2012, 02:31 PM

Radio triggers?

Sol Invictus · 10-10-2012, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Radio triggers?

And only in manual. I use Cactus V5s. No complaints.

There is a Chinese manufacturer that supposedly makes triggers for Pentax that will allow access to TTL. The name escapes me right now.

godavari · 10-10-2012, 03:02 PM

I use O-GPS1 outdoors which is mounted on hot shoe so can't use pop up flash, and I need to trigger the external flash for "fill in" purposes occasionally. Any of these remote triggers be helpful in this case? Thanks.

Sol Invictus · 10-10-2012, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by godavari

I use O-GPS1 outdoors which is mounted on hot shoe so can't use pop up flash, and I need to trigger the external flash for "fill in" purposes occasionally. Any of these remote triggers be helpful in this case? Thanks.

I usually have mine on the hotshoe so I'm not sure. I believe the Cactus ones come with a cable to plug them into the side of the camera in order provide the same functionality. I will check once I get home.

**jatrax** · 10-10-2012, 03:22 PM

Maybe a little old school but you could always just use a cable. K-5 has a PC port to connect flash cable. No idea what connectors the AF360 has but something could be made to work even if just a hot shoe mounted adapter with PC in.

Also you can get a P-ttl cable that would work, though it is expensive. Question would be if it passes through the info the GPS needs, I have no idea if that would work.

**Eric Auer** · 10-10-2012, 06:39 PM

Amazon.com: Aputure 2.4Ghz Trigmaster Radio Remote Flash Trigger and Shutter Cable Release, fits Pentax *ist DS, DS2, D, DL, DL2, K10D, K20D, K100D, K110D, K200D, K-5, and Pentax AF 360 FGZ, AF-200FG: Camera & Photo

123jippo · 10-11-2012, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Sol Invictus

There is a Chinese manufacturer that supposedly makes triggers for Pentax that will allow access to TTL. The name escapes me right now.

Really...newer heard PTTL wireless trigger for pentax...

rawr · 10-11-2012, 01:21 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by 123jippo

Really...newer heard PTTL wireless trigger for pentax...

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/195068-...ntax-sony.html

Class A · 10-11-2012, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Sol Invictus

I believe the Cactus ones come with a cable to plug them into the side of the camera in order provide the same functionality.

This is correct. One can trigger the transceiver with a cable (comes with the transceiver) that is connected to the camera. The only problem is to somehow attach the transceiver to the camera, given that the hot shoe isn't available.

If the V5 relayed all hot shoe contacts, you could have put it on the hot shoe first and then the GPS unit on top of it, but unfortunately, it doesn't.

**jatrax** · 10-11-2012, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by Class A

The only problem is to somehow attach the transceiver to the camera, given that the hot shoe isn't available.

Here you go: PENTAX Hot Shoe Grip reviews - Pentax Camera Accessory Review Database

SOldBear · 10-11-2012, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by godavari

I use O-GPS1 outdoors which is mounted on hot shoe so can't use pop up flash, and I need to trigger the external flash for "fill in" purposes occasionally. Any of these remote triggers be helpful in this case?

I don't trust optical slaves outdoors.

But with some of these Pentax cable/adapters, you can use the built-in flash AND connect the O-GPS1 too (do a search for "pentax off camera adapter"):

**Lowell Goudge** · 10-12-2012, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

Maybe a little old school but you could always just use a cable. K-5 has a PC port to connect flash cable. No idea what connectors the AF360 has but something could be made to work even if just a hot shoe mounted adapter with PC in.

Also you can get a P-ttl cable that would work, though it is expensive. Question would be if it passes through the info the GPS needs, I have no idea if that would work.

the F 5P extension cord allows for off camera flash and offers a secondary hot shoe on top of the cable head that slides into the shoe. I would imagine this is adequate for the needs, my AF500FTZ came with this standard, but the AF540FGZ does not

**jatrax** · 10-12-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

the F 5P extension cord allows for off camera flash and offers a secondary hot shoe on top of the cable head that slides into the shoe.

Lowell do you know if this passes through everything needed by the GPS unit? I was going to suggest that cable but I don't know if it will work for the OP's purpose or not. It would be good to know as I'm sure the OP is not the only person who might run into the same situation.

**Lowell Goudge** · 10-12-2012, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

Lowell do you know if this passes through everything needed by the GPS unit? I was going to suggest that cable but I don't know if it will work for the OP's purpose or not. It would be good to know as I'm sure the OP is not the only person who might run into the same situation.

short answer, no, but only because I don't have a GPS. If someone offers me a GPS

then I can test. Seriously, there should be two PF members close enough together , one with the cable one with a GPS to figure this out but the cable does put all the contacts through to the secondary shoe.

Not sure the cable works with the OP's AF 360FGZ either, it is for the 500 and 540 for sure, but only because I have both flashes and checked the manuals. Maybe someone should ask pentax

10-10-2012, 02:17 PM	#1
godavari Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Jose, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 230	Trigger remote flash without popping up built in flash I use AF360 flash with K-5. Wondering how can I trigger the flash remotely without having to pop up the built-in flash. Thanks in advance.

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10-10-2012, 02:31 PM	#2
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Radio triggers?

10-10-2012, 02:50 PM	#3
Sol Invictus Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta Photos: Gallery Posts: 392	Originally posted by jatrax Radio triggers? And only in manual. I use Cactus V5s. No complaints. There is a Chinese manufacturer that supposedly makes triggers for Pentax that will allow access to TTL. The name escapes me right now.

10-10-2012, 03:02 PM	#4
godavari Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Jose, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 230 Original Poster	I use O-GPS1 outdoors which is mounted on hot shoe so can't use pop up flash, and I need to trigger the external flash for "fill in" purposes occasionally. Any of these remote triggers be helpful in this case? Thanks.

10-10-2012, 03:06 PM	#5
Sol Invictus Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta Photos: Gallery Posts: 392	Originally posted by godavari I use O-GPS1 outdoors which is mounted on hot shoe so can't use pop up flash, and I need to trigger the external flash for "fill in" purposes occasionally. Any of these remote triggers be helpful in this case? Thanks. I usually have mine on the hotshoe so I'm not sure. I believe the Cactus ones come with a cable to plug them into the side of the camera in order provide the same functionality. I will check once I get home.

10-10-2012, 03:22 PM	#6
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Maybe a little old school but you could always just use a cable. K-5 has a PC port to connect flash cable. No idea what connectors the AF360 has but something could be made to work even if just a hot shoe mounted adapter with PC in. Also you can get a P-ttl cable that would work, though it is expensive. Question would be if it passes through the info the GPS needs, I have no idea if that would work.

10-10-2012, 06:39 PM	#7
Eric Auer Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,211	Amazon.com: Aputure 2.4Ghz Trigmaster Radio Remote Flash Trigger and Shutter Cable Release, fits Pentax *ist DS, DS2, D, DL, DL2, K10D, K20D, K100D, K110D, K200D, K-5, and Pentax AF 360 FGZ, AF-200FG: Camera & Photo

10-11-2012, 12:18 AM	#8
123jippo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 165	Originally posted by Sol Invictus There is a Chinese manufacturer that supposedly makes triggers for Pentax that will allow access to TTL. The name escapes me right now. Really...newer heard PTTL wireless trigger for pentax...

10-11-2012, 01:21 AM - 1 Like	#9
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by 123jippo Really...newer heard PTTL wireless trigger for pentax... https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/195068-...ntax-sony.html

10-11-2012, 05:36 AM	#10
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Sol Invictus I believe the Cactus ones come with a cable to plug them into the side of the camera in order provide the same functionality. This is correct. One can trigger the transceiver with a cable (comes with the transceiver) that is connected to the camera. The only problem is to somehow attach the transceiver to the camera, given that the hot shoe isn't available. If the V5 relayed all hot shoe contacts, you could have put it on the hot shoe first and then the GPS unit on top of it, but unfortunately, it doesn't.

10-11-2012, 08:30 AM	#11
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Class A The only problem is to somehow attach the transceiver to the camera, given that the hot shoe isn't available. Here you go: PENTAX Hot Shoe Grip reviews - Pentax Camera Accessory Review Database

10-11-2012, 01:31 PM	#12
SOldBear Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 3,206	Originally posted by godavari I use O-GPS1 outdoors which is mounted on hot shoe so can't use pop up flash, and I need to trigger the external flash for "fill in" purposes occasionally. Any of these remote triggers be helpful in this case? I don't trust optical slaves outdoors. But with some of these Pentax cable/adapters, you can use the built-in flash AND connect the O-GPS1 too (do a search for "pentax off camera adapter"):

10-12-2012, 11:39 AM	#13
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,887	Originally posted by jatrax Maybe a little old school but you could always just use a cable. K-5 has a PC port to connect flash cable. No idea what connectors the AF360 has but something could be made to work even if just a hot shoe mounted adapter with PC in. Also you can get a P-ttl cable that would work, though it is expensive. Question would be if it passes through the info the GPS needs, I have no idea if that would work. the F 5P extension cord allows for off camera flash and offers a secondary hot shoe on top of the cable head that slides into the shoe. I would imagine this is adequate for the needs, my AF500FTZ came with this standard, but the AF540FGZ does not

10-12-2012, 12:00 PM	#14
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge the F 5P extension cord allows for off camera flash and offers a secondary hot shoe on top of the cable head that slides into the shoe. Lowell do you know if this passes through everything needed by the GPS unit? I was going to suggest that cable but I don't know if it will work for the OP's purpose or not. It would be good to know as I'm sure the OP is not the only person who might run into the same situation.

10-12-2012, 12:14 PM	#15
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,887	Originally posted by jatrax Lowell do you know if this passes through everything needed by the GPS unit? I was going to suggest that cable but I don't know if it will work for the OP's purpose or not. It would be good to know as I'm sure the OP is not the only person who might run into the same situation. short answer, no, but only because I don't have a GPS. If someone offers me a GPS then I can test. Seriously, there should be two PF members close enough together , one with the cable one with a GPS to figure this out but the cable does put all the contacts through to the secondary shoe. Not sure the cable works with the OP's AF 360FGZ either, it is for the 500 and 540 for sure, but only because I have both flashes and checked the manuals. Maybe someone should ask pentax