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Culture · 01-31-2013, 10:52 PM

After doing some research I thinking that it might be good to get some functions like zoom and high sync speed (if I decide to use it outside).
I have not gone far with my research. But will a flash without TTL allow these functions? the YN-460II I know does not zoom. The 560 does.

adpo · 02-01-2013, 05:56 AM

HSS is a pttl only function on Pentax bodies. The 560 is a solid flash (I own 3, 2 more on the way) and I could definitely recommend that if you've got the budget for it. Aside from that, you should just get your feet wet with using flash before you worry about things like pttl, HSS, overpowering the sun, etc.
Personally, my preferred ,method of overpowering daylight is with a battery powered studio strobe

GeneV · 02-01-2013, 10:19 AM

Actually, the benefit of P-TTL is that it is easier for someone who is just getting his feet wet.

I agree 100% about the studio strobe. If you are shooting in studio, it is far superior to a manual speedlight.

hangman43 · 02-01-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by GeneV

Actually, the benefit of P-TTL is that it is easier for someone who is just getting his feet wet.

I agree 100% about the studio strobe. If you are shooting in studio, it is far superior to a manual speedlight.

Yes it easier but you learn nothing I wish I would have started with my YN560 instead of the AF360 I find it much easier to set the manual flash since I use my camera on manual most of the time anyways and found that I used the AF360 in manual mode more than in P-ttl the only time I have really used it in P-ttl is to use HSS.

Culture · 02-03-2013, 10:50 PM

Thanks to everyone for the wonderfull advice.

I have ordered for the YN-560II flash and RF-603N1 triggers.

Thanks once again.

GeneV · 02-04-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by hangman43

Yes it easier but you learn nothing I wish I would have started with my YN560 instead of the AF360 I find it much easier to set the manual flash since I use my camera on manual most of the time anyways and found that I used the AF360 in manual mode more than in P-ttl the only time I have really used it in P-ttl is to use HSS.

I started before there was TTL or even a dedicated flash, so I see the convenience as a relief.

glanglois · 02-04-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

I started before there was TTL or even a dedicated flash, so I see the convenience as a relief.

And safer than your flash powder, no doubt

GeneV · 02-04-2013, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by glanglois

And safer than your flash powder, no doubt

Well, flash BULBS maybe.

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01-31-2013, 10:52 PM	#16
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818 Original Poster	After doing some research I thinking that it might be good to get some functions like zoom and high sync speed (if I decide to use it outside). I have not gone far with my research. But will a flash without TTL allow these functions? the YN-460II I know does not zoom. The 560 does.

02-01-2013, 05:56 AM	#17
adpo Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery Posts: 888	HSS is a pttl only function on Pentax bodies. The 560 is a solid flash (I own 3, 2 more on the way) and I could definitely recommend that if you've got the budget for it. Aside from that, you should just get your feet wet with using flash before you worry about things like pttl, HSS, overpowering the sun, etc. Personally, my preferred ,method of overpowering daylight is with a battery powered studio strobe

02-01-2013, 10:19 AM	#18
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Actually, the benefit of P-TTL is that it is easier for someone who is just getting his feet wet. I agree 100% about the studio strobe. If you are shooting in studio, it is far superior to a manual speedlight.

02-01-2013, 11:16 AM	#19
hangman43 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hueytown, Alabama Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,508	Originally posted by GeneV Actually, the benefit of P-TTL is that it is easier for someone who is just getting his feet wet. I agree 100% about the studio strobe. If you are shooting in studio, it is far superior to a manual speedlight. Yes it easier but you learn nothing I wish I would have started with my YN560 instead of the AF360 I find it much easier to set the manual flash since I use my camera on manual most of the time anyways and found that I used the AF360 in manual mode more than in P-ttl the only time I have really used it in P-ttl is to use HSS.

02-03-2013, 10:50 PM	#20
Culture Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Vaasa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 818 Original Poster	Thanks to everyone for the wonderfull advice. I have ordered for the YN-560II flash and RF-603N1 triggers. Thanks once again.

02-04-2013, 01:35 PM	#21
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by hangman43 Yes it easier but you learn nothing I wish I would have started with my YN560 instead of the AF360 I find it much easier to set the manual flash since I use my camera on manual most of the time anyways and found that I used the AF360 in manual mode more than in P-ttl the only time I have really used it in P-ttl is to use HSS. I started before there was TTL or even a dedicated flash, so I see the convenience as a relief.

02-04-2013, 03:43 PM	#22
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by GeneV I started before there was TTL or even a dedicated flash, so I see the convenience as a relief. And safer than your flash powder, no doubt

02-04-2013, 04:47 PM	#23
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by glanglois And safer than your flash powder, no doubt Well, flash BULBS maybe.

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