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06-02-2013, 08:52 AM   #16
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well, technology is improving.
with the new YN 560 III, it has build in receiver. so people just need buy 1 YN RF-603 radio trigger. it can trigger YN 560 III with out additional receiver for flash.
If I have not own 3 manual flash already, I would build my flash system entirely with this new Yongnuo set up.

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Following the suggestion of the Cactus units I sent this enquiry to Gadget infinity.

Is it possible to use one camera to trigger a second camera and a remote flash for that second camera?

Is it possible to use camera one to trigger a remote flash and trigger a second camera also with remote flash?

Alistair Barclay Country Studio Photography Bristol England


and got this reply which puts them out of the game as it is my understanding that the Pocket Wizards will trigger a second camera when the first one fires,

so for example at a wedding in the church the one you are using will trigger the remote on the second unit to take the same image from an the other viewpoint.

Thank you for your inquiry. However the Cactus V5 (flash trigger) is not designed to release shutter via signals from a camera hot shoe. It is designed to properly function only by pressing the button the transmitter unit. This is because pressing the button sends out an AF signal whilst the signal from the camera hot shoe does not.

The signals from the hot shoe is much shorter as compared to the touch of our hand. Secondly, each camera model has a different accepted time (pulse rate) in order to recognize signals as shutter release commands. When the time (pulse rate) from the flash hot shoe on your transmitting camera is set faster than the accepted range on the receiving camera, the shutter will not release.

For your reference, Canon has a shutter time (pulse rate) of around 0.25s and Sony at 0.4 to 0.5, the Nikon is somewhere in between. In order to have your receiving camera to catch the signal and recognize it as shutter release, the shutter time has to set lower than the accepted time range of your camera.

We hope we have made it clear that the V5 was not designed to function this way.

On the other hand, here is our UK distributor. You can find out their information below.

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Tel: (44) 1752 685309

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Not sure you're being entirely reasonable here. You seem to be expecting inexpensive trigger units to do the same as absolute top-of-the-range gear.

Let's get this clear. You want:
  • To press the button on a transmitter
  • ...And trigger a receiver plugged into a camera
  • ...Which triggers a remote flash AND a second camera
  • ...Which triggers a second remote flash
The Flashwave III system I mentioned will do what you want - you'll need three transmitters and four receivers set up on three different channels and you'll need to buy two cables to connect the receivers to your cameras. You're looking at spending £350 - £400 just on the triggers.

If Pocket Wizards already do everything you're looking for with a simpler setup, then just buy the Pocket Wizards already. No-one ever said that photography was a cheap hobby!

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QuoteOriginally posted by top-quark Quote
Not sure you're being entirely reasonable here. You seem to be expecting inexpensive trigger units to do the same as absolute top-of-the-range gear.

Let's get this clear. You want:
  • To press the button on a transmitter
  • ...And trigger a receiver plugged into a camera
  • ...Which triggers a remote flash AND a second camera
  • ...Which triggers a second remote flash
The Flashwave III system I mentioned will do what you want - you'll need three transmitters and four receivers set up on three different channels and you'll need to buy two cables to connect the receivers to your cameras. You're looking at spending £350 - £400 just on the triggers.

If Pocket Wizards already do everything you're looking for with a simpler setup, then just buy the Pocket Wizards already. No-one ever said that photography was a cheap hobby!
Not quite I want to at a minimum:
  • To press the shutter button on a camera 1 to activate a hotshoe mounted sender transmitter
  • ...Which triggers a remote flash on manual
  • ...Which triggers a receiver plugged into a camera 2 and remotely triggers the shutter on camera 2
  • ....Which triggers a hotshoe mounted sender on camera 2 that triggers one or two remote flashes also on manual..

I know that top of the rage wizards will do this, I was wondering what alternatives there are as it is easy to overlook sometimes another brand than can do the same or nearly the same.

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I thought they only work in TTL for Canon and Nikon, don't they?
Oops...yes, you're right...only for Canikon. Ditto the TTL wireless triggers from Phottix on fleabay.
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QuoteOriginally posted by top-quark Quote
Not sure you're being entirely reasonable here. You seem to be expecting inexpensive trigger units to do the same as absolute top-of-the-range gear.

Let's get this clear. You want:
  • To press the button on a transmitter
  • ...And trigger a receiver plugged into a camera
  • ...Which triggers a remote flash AND a second camera
  • ...Which triggers a second remote flash
The Flashwave III system I mentioned will do what you want - you'll need three transmitters and four receivers set up on three different channels and you'll need to buy two cables to connect the receivers to your cameras. You're looking at spending £350 - £400 just on the triggers.

If Pocket Wizards already do everything you're looking for with a simpler setup, then just buy the Pocket Wizards already. No-one ever said that photography was a cheap hobby!
Aputure can do this. Their units function either for flash or as shutter triggers. One trigger can set off all kinds of combinations, all from the same $30 transceivers.
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Aputure can do this. Their units function either for flash or as shutter triggers. One trigger can set off all kinds of combinations, all from the same $30 transceivers.
Thank you that's a new brand to me, that's why I posted the question it was to see what else is available out side of the bigger names.

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Thank you for your inquiry. The short answer is yes! You'd be using something called "Relay Mode" to do that. I'd recommend the PlusX radios for this setup. Your setup would be this:

Your camera in your hands, with a PlusX set to Channel 1 in the hot shoe.

Any flash you want to fire with the camera in your hand set to Manual, and connected to a PlusX on Channel 1.

Your remote camera set to manual focus, with a PlusX set to Channel 1 in the top shoe, connected with a remote triggering cord (your exact model can be found here: PocketWizard )

Your remote flash in manual mode that you wish to fire with your remote camera connected to a PlusX set to Channel 2.

When you fire the camera in your hand, it sends out a Channel 1 signal. This syncs any flashes set to Channel 1, and also triggers the remote camera. The camera's shutter opens and fires the radio in the top shoe again, which switches to Channel 2 and fires any flashes set to Channel 2.
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