Hi all there – thanks for help and for the time. Sorry for delayed answers I have been traveling on last moment over 3 country and it its toll. Apologies once again and I will be very helpful if you would come back to me.
Originally posted by derekkite The way to freeze movement is to lower the power setting. 1/8 power is about 1/4000 of a second. Depending on what you are shooting, that will freeze movement quite effectively. To freeze hummingbird wings requires even faster such as 1/16 power.
Once you are getting into those speeds with multiple flashes, synchronizing them becomes a challenge. The latency, or delay between emitting a signal and triggering the flash using optical wireless triggering is about 1/16000 of a second, or a quarter of the 1/4000 duration at 1/8 power. That may or may not be a problem. Signal wireless using rf radio waves is much slower, you may find problems at 1/1000 speed where the synchronisation isn't effective. Others who use these systems with multiple flashes to freeze movement can comment.
Of course when you decrease the power you have less light. From a camera exposure standpoint the light from a flash is affected by the distance from the subject. Twice the distance means 1/4 of the light, roughly a square relationship as the same amount of light has to flood an area 2*2 the size. That is the basis for the exposure charts where distance, Iso and fstop are all used to calculate the exposure settings.
Depending on what you are shooting you can get into situations where everything is conspiring against your exposure, short duration, distance to subject and small aperture for depth of field. In other words, great fun and lots to learn.
The yongnuo stuff is pretty good for the price, it works OK. They are cheap.
I needed five flashes to fire simultaneously at 1/16 power or 1/6000 of a second to freeze bats in flight. Eventually I ended up using a raspberry pi board with a piface output board to trigger there bodies and five flashes. It worked quite well, the yongnuo 560iii flashes worked well.
It comes down to how fast your action is, how critical your synchronization is, how many shots.
Please did you get P-TTL with Yongnuo or HSS, so to speak? Also please do you know their triggers and support? What I am after is, that if I buy into their system, if they would have a tendency to add more brands into compatibility. I am also interested for instance – that if I get an Canon flash or Nikon one from friend, if I am able to use it in set up.
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Originally posted by awaldram I use HSS when shooting moving subjects (esp panning indoors) in decent light and need fast shutter to freeze the background movement and flash to target the close subject matter.
I think a lot of people attempt to use HSS when the issue is the ambient part of the subject not flash failing to freeze the subject, Their solution should be to use a none mixed mode (X) or deliberately dial down the ambient quota.
Everyone always forgets flash golden rule - Shutter speed has no effect on flash exposures.
Ambient exposure = Aperture,Shutter Speed, ISO
Flash exposure = Aperture , Flash Power , ISO
What I want to achieve is following:
1. Outdoor & indoor scenes
2. Backround naturally lit, if there are moving objects, create blur – this should be naturally lit (and more or less even – according to ambient light)
3. Long or relatively long exposure
4. Where I have a fast moving subject and need perfect freeze
5. Having this freeze done multiple times in 1 exposure
6. Hid flashguns into scene and let them go off in (kind of ) sequence
7. Where I am able to control strength of flashes and their order
8. Strong separation between background – kind of very dark, more or less evenly lit, color – deep, heavy, dark and brightly lighted separated subject, which might have its own light surrounding (aka falloff light from flashgun on background)
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Originally posted by BrianR Do you even need High-Speed Sync (HSS) for what you're doing? A fast shutter speed is not a requirement for using a flash to freeze motion, you just need the ambient contribution to be very low during your exposure and your flashes to have a low enough T.1 time to stop the movement (T.1 time is essentially the flash duration, for hotshoe flashes the lower the power level the shorter this is and the better the stopping power).
Can you describe in more detail what's going with your setup? Is this a long exposure you're doing with flashes going of during it? Or something else?
sorry for not answering sooner:
What I want to achieve is following:
1. Outdoor & indoor scenes
2. Backround naturally lit, if there are moving objects, create blur – this should be naturally lit (and more or less even – according to ambient light)
3. Long or relatively long exposure
4. Where I have a fast moving subject and need perfect freeze
5. Having this freeze done multiple times in 1 exposure
6. Hid flashguns into scene and let them go off in (kind of ) sequence
7. Where I am able to control strength of flashes and their order
8. Strong separation between background – kind of very dark, more or less evenly lit, color – deep, heavy, dark and brightly lighted separated subject, which might have its own light surrounding (aka falloff light from flashgun on background)