Hot Shoe Issue

Mallette · 04-09-2016, 03:32 PM

I had an accident a while back. Dang near wound up in the hospital, but managed my fall except that my Pentax KIII had a strobe mounted that whacked the hotshoe mount off the camera as I went down with it in my hand. Strobe and camera survived fine. I've made several attempts to glue it with J&B and such, roughed it up and carefully clamped. All worked, but not for very long before even with careful handling it comes free.

So, I have in mind to attempt using VERY small machine screws, .25 inch or less length and as small diameter as possible, to put it back in place. Not sure what's underneath but hoping nothing critical. Not having TTL flash is a major bummer, as my Mecablitz 44 AD 1 really doesn't have much in the way of manual controls.

I've ordered an off camera shoe and cable, but, of course, it won't be TTL.

Thought I'd ask the fans here to see if you had any other thoughts.

Dave

**jatrax** · 04-09-2016, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Mallette

Not sure what's underneath but hoping nothing

Hope is a wonderful thing.....................

And personally I doubt a few little screws will be any more secure in plastic than the epoxy glue. I would send it in for repair. Keep in mind that any re-sale value is going to go to essentially zero if you start drilling screws into the camera. Assuming you don't brick it in the process.

Best of luck, I hope you find a good solution.

Mallette · 04-09-2016, 04:45 PM

Could care less about resale value as I've yet to sell a good camera. Still have an ancient Pentax K and a 120 TLR from before my own time.

Just want it working. As to sending it somewhere, I rather doubted that was an option. Most stuff is considered expendable these days. If I do the screw job I'll epoxy as well.

Dave

**jatrax** · 04-09-2016, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Mallette

Just want it working. As to sending it somewhere, I rather doubted that was an option. Most stuff is considered expendable these days.

Not sure where you are but Pentax would certainly repair that. No idea of the cost of course. But I don't consider things expendable. I've had several bodies repaired. And quite a few lenses.

I would not assume there was "nothing" under there though. Every seen the inside of one of these? They use all the space there is. Anyway, good luck.

Mallette · 04-09-2016, 05:30 PM

I'll give it serous thought before taking action. As the repair is clear, I'd hope to be able to get a firm quote from Pentax if they do such repairs. Couldn't be more straightforward.

Dave

**jatrax** · 04-09-2016, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Mallette

As the repair is clear, I'd hope to be able to get a firm quote from Pentax if they do such repairs. Couldn't be more straightforward.

US warranty repair is through Precision Camera Repair in Enfield, CT. Non-warranty repair can go elsewhere. This might help: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/189-repairs-warranty-service/316284-penta...e-listing.html

I believe Precision just has a flat rate fee but you should be able to get something from the website. Precision Camera - Digital Camera Repair, Video Camera Repair

hcc · 04-09-2016, 09:39 PM

KEH (keh.com) provide also non-warranty repairs. Keh is a (very) well-known and reputable second-hand camera seller/buyer and they have extensive experience in refurbishing used cameras.
Note: I have not used them for repairs but for 2nd hand lenses.

boydbowlin · 04-09-2016, 11:59 PM

Hi Dave ,
I had a similar accident and ripped the top of a friends K5IIS . Had it replaced by CR Kennedy in Melbourne . $150 around about from memory . They sent me all the broken top parts after the repair was done as they replace the whole top of the camera to fix it . I would advise strongly against drilling into the top of the camera as there is quite complex wiring all around the inside of the top camera body . The 4 screws that hold the hot shoe on are screwed from the inside . The plastic Pentax flash foot is designed to shear off before damaging the camera mount . But i had a third party flash which had a metal foot and the result was the whole hot shoe mount came away from the body . The flash base would have been around $50.00 to repair .
Regards Anthony .

Mallette · 04-11-2016, 03:56 PM

I'd be happy enough to pay that, but I suspect the to and from Australia would be prohibitive. My strobe foot is fine. Just the camera mount sheared off.

Right now I am going to get by with just a sync. Having to manually adjust is annoying but doable until I find the right repair service.

Dave

Mallette · 04-12-2016, 08:25 AM

Hmmm...here is another thought. Wonder if I could locate an extension TTL device. One that has full contacts on two shoes. The J&B industroweld would hold a shoe on there just fine and I could mount the strobe on my hand mount.

Anyone aware of such an animal?

Dave

---------- Post added 04-12-16 at 08:41 AM ----------

Found and order one for 18.00. If it works, it will be fine.

Dave

04-09-2016, 03:32 PM	#1
Mallette New Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 5	Hot Shoe Issue I had an accident a while back. Dang near wound up in the hospital, but managed my fall except that my Pentax KIII had a strobe mounted that whacked the hotshoe mount off the camera as I went down with it in my hand. Strobe and camera survived fine. I've made several attempts to glue it with J&B and such, roughed it up and carefully clamped. All worked, but not for very long before even with careful handling it comes free. So, I have in mind to attempt using VERY small machine screws, .25 inch or less length and as small diameter as possible, to put it back in place. Not sure what's underneath but hoping nothing critical. Not having TTL flash is a major bummer, as my Mecablitz 44 AD 1 really doesn't have much in the way of manual controls. I've ordered an off camera shoe and cable, but, of course, it won't be TTL. Thought I'd ask the fans here to see if you had any other thoughts. Dave

04-09-2016, 04:45 PM	#3
Mallette New Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 5 Original Poster	Thanks Could care less about resale value as I've yet to sell a good camera. Still have an ancient Pentax K and a 120 TLR from before my own time. Just want it working. As to sending it somewhere, I rather doubted that was an option. Most stuff is considered expendable these days. If I do the screw job I'll epoxy as well. Dave

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04-09-2016, 03:57 PM	#2
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Mallette Not sure what's underneath but hoping nothing Hope is a wonderful thing..................... And personally I doubt a few little screws will be any more secure in plastic than the epoxy glue. I would send it in for repair. Keep in mind that any re-sale value is going to go to essentially zero if you start drilling screws into the camera. Assuming you don't brick it in the process. Best of luck, I hope you find a good solution.

04-09-2016, 05:19 PM	#4
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Mallette Just want it working. As to sending it somewhere, I rather doubted that was an option. Most stuff is considered expendable these days. Not sure where you are but Pentax would certainly repair that. No idea of the cost of course. But I don't consider things expendable. I've had several bodies repaired. And quite a few lenses. I would not assume there was "nothing" under there though. Every seen the inside of one of these? They use all the space there is. Anyway, good luck.

04-09-2016, 05:30 PM	#5
Mallette New Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 5 Original Poster	I'll give it serous thought before taking action. As the repair is clear, I'd hope to be able to get a firm quote from Pentax if they do such repairs. Couldn't be more straightforward. Dave

04-09-2016, 06:13 PM	#6
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Mallette As the repair is clear, I'd hope to be able to get a firm quote from Pentax if they do such repairs. Couldn't be more straightforward. US warranty repair is through Precision Camera Repair in Enfield, CT. Non-warranty repair can go elsewhere. This might help: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/189-repairs-warranty-service/316284-penta...e-listing.html I believe Precision just has a flat rate fee but you should be able to get something from the website. Precision Camera - Digital Camera Repair, Video Camera Repair

04-09-2016, 09:39 PM	#7
hcc Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,002	KEH (keh.com) provide also non-warranty repairs. Keh is a (very) well-known and reputable second-hand camera seller/buyer and they have extensive experience in refurbishing used cameras. Note: I have not used them for repairs but for 2nd hand lenses.

04-09-2016, 11:59 PM	#8
boydbowlin Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: northern nsw Photos: Albums Posts: 41	Hi Dave , I had a similar accident and ripped the top of a friends K5IIS . Had it replaced by CR Kennedy in Melbourne . $150 around about from memory . They sent me all the broken top parts after the repair was done as they replace the whole top of the camera to fix it . I would advise strongly against drilling into the top of the camera as there is quite complex wiring all around the inside of the top camera body . The 4 screws that hold the hot shoe on are screwed from the inside . The plastic Pentax flash foot is designed to shear off before damaging the camera mount . But i had a third party flash which had a metal foot and the result was the whole hot shoe mount came away from the body . The flash base would have been around $50.00 to repair . Regards Anthony .

04-11-2016, 03:56 PM	#9
Mallette New Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 5 Original Poster	I'd be happy enough to pay that, but I suspect the to and from Australia would be prohibitive. My strobe foot is fine. Just the camera mount sheared off. Right now I am going to get by with just a sync. Having to manually adjust is annoying but doable until I find the right repair service. Dave

04-12-2016, 08:25 AM	#10
Mallette New Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 5 Original Poster	Hmmm...here is another thought. Wonder if I could locate an extension TTL device. One that has full contacts on two shoes. The J&B industroweld would hold a shoe on there just fine and I could mount the strobe on my hand mount. Anyone aware of such an animal? Dave ---------- Post added 04-12-16 at 08:41 AM ---------- Found and order one for 18.00. If it works, it will be fine. Dave