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dws1117 · 07-15-2008, 09:52 PM

I know this is for the upcoming Sony flash, but I hope Pentax will follow suit and develop something similar. This looks really cool. It sure seems like Sony is putting a lot of resources into their DSLR cameras.

Sony's new Flash

flyer · 07-16-2008, 04:15 AM

Do you think the end result would be better than a flash with conventional tilt and swivel? I don't think so...
But, on a marketing point of view, it's different, so it will attract some people.

ftpaddict · 07-16-2008, 04:30 AM

That's an utterly ridiculous design, IMO.

maxwell1295 · 07-16-2008, 05:00 AM

I think it's genius.....if it works as designed.

Jodokast96 · 07-16-2008, 05:31 AM

If they really wanted to do something different, they would have allowed it to rotate through all 3 axis.

dws1117 · 07-16-2008, 05:44 AM

Recently I was working an event and the photographers hired to shooth the even all had a frame mounted to thier cameras on which the flash was mounted and it alloweed them to flip the flash when the camera was turned verticle. This seems like a way to accomplish the same thing without having to buy another attachment.

procyon · 07-16-2008, 06:06 AM

BTW, I kind of thought that flash heads are not square shaped but wider because then they match the sensor that is also wider horizontally. But in this position the camera sensor is now wider in the other direction than the flash. Doesn't it create problems ? Like flash vignetting at wide angles ?

Matjazz · 07-16-2008, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by procyon

BTW, I kind of thought that flash heads are not square shaped but wider because then they match the sensor that is also wider horizontally. But in this position the camera sensor is now wider in the other direction than the flash. Doesn't it create problems ? Like flash vignetting at wide angles ?

If you're using direct flash you can always not turn it so it works just like regular flash.

This is the best flash design I've seen. If one uses bounce it's easy to follow camera orientation no matter what accesory one might have attached to flash head. Think, what use is bounce card (that most of todays flash units have) if oen wants to shoot vertical frame and bounce of celing? ... None.

raz-0 · 07-16-2008, 10:53 AM

Conceptually i like the design.

Practically, you have this really long, bulky flash hanging off your hotshoe. Doesn't seem like a good idea for durability.

mattdm · 07-16-2008, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by raz-0

Conceptually i like the design.

Practically, you have this really long, bulky flash hanging off your hotshoe. Doesn't seem like a good idea for durability.

Sony has an advantage here: Minolta's proprietary hotshoe design.

OniFactor · 07-16-2008, 01:14 PM

plus, it's really not that much larger than other similarly ranged flashes.

wlachan · 07-16-2008, 01:21 PM

Instead of going for something fancy, why not keep it compact, user friendly, fast to recycle, accurate and mechanically reliable (540FGZ fails on all these). The Sony flash is a 1/2 bake solution. The flash still needs a bracket if you want it sits above the lens in portrait orientation. I am sure, however, that it will work from marketing POV.

BrendanPK · 07-17-2008, 10:42 AM

I am simple, Keep the 540 design, add weather seals and faster recycling and an option for a 5th battery for even faster recycles

OniFactor · 07-18-2008, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by wlachan

Instead of going for something fancy, why not keep it compact, user friendly, fast to recycle, accurate and mechanically reliable (540FGZ fails on all these). The Sony flash is a 1/2 bake solution. The flash still needs a bracket if you want it sits above the lens in portrait orientation. I am sure, however, that it will work from marketing POV.

honestly, 'good' brackets shouldn't even have the flash on the same vertical axis as the lens. that's how you get redeye. sure, the higher it is, the less it is, but still. move it 3 inches to the left, and wow, red eye's almost gone! and the sony achieve's this

melander · 07-18-2008, 08:49 AM

How about you go to the page and look at all the pictures, you flip it and use it as a regular flash, and tilt it etc.

07-15-2008, 09:52 PM	#1
dws1117 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Spring, TX. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,157	Flash Pentax should produce I know this is for the upcoming Sony flash, but I hope Pentax will follow suit and develop something similar. This looks really cool. It sure seems like Sony is putting a lot of resources into their DSLR cameras. Sony's new Flash

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07-16-2008, 04:15 AM	#2
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	Do you think the end result would be better than a flash with conventional tilt and swivel? I don't think so... But, on a marketing point of view, it's different, so it will attract some people.

07-16-2008, 04:30 AM	#3
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	That's an utterly ridiculous design, IMO.

07-16-2008, 05:00 AM	#4
maxwell1295 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,703	I think it's genius.....if it works as designed.

07-16-2008, 05:31 AM	#5
Jodokast96 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Erial, NJ USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,134	If they really wanted to do something different, they would have allowed it to rotate through all 3 axis.

07-16-2008, 05:44 AM	#6
dws1117 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Spring, TX. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,157 Original Poster	Recently I was working an event and the photographers hired to shooth the even all had a frame mounted to thier cameras on which the flash was mounted and it alloweed them to flip the flash when the camera was turned verticle. This seems like a way to accomplish the same thing without having to buy another attachment.

07-16-2008, 06:06 AM	#7
procyon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tallinn Posts: 265	BTW, I kind of thought that flash heads are not square shaped but wider because then they match the sensor that is also wider horizontally. But in this position the camera sensor is now wider in the other direction than the flash. Doesn't it create problems ? Like flash vignetting at wide angles ?

07-16-2008, 06:44 AM	#8
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	Originally posted by procyon BTW, I kind of thought that flash heads are not square shaped but wider because then they match the sensor that is also wider horizontally. But in this position the camera sensor is now wider in the other direction than the flash. Doesn't it create problems ? Like flash vignetting at wide angles ? If you're using direct flash you can always not turn it so it works just like regular flash. This is the best flash design I've seen. If one uses bounce it's easy to follow camera orientation no matter what accesory one might have attached to flash head. Think, what use is bounce card (that most of todays flash units have) if oen wants to shoot vertical frame and bounce of celing? ... None.

07-16-2008, 10:53 AM	#9
raz-0 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Central NJ Posts: 470	Conceptually i like the design. Practically, you have this really long, bulky flash hanging off your hotshoe. Doesn't seem like a good idea for durability.

07-16-2008, 11:22 AM	#10
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by raz-0 Conceptually i like the design. Practically, you have this really long, bulky flash hanging off your hotshoe. Doesn't seem like a good idea for durability. Sony has an advantage here: Minolta's proprietary hotshoe design.

07-16-2008, 01:14 PM	#11
OniFactor Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Binghamton, NY, USA Posts: 643	plus, it's really not that much larger than other similarly ranged flashes.

07-16-2008, 01:21 PM	#12
wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	Instead of going for something fancy, why not keep it compact, user friendly, fast to recycle, accurate and mechanically reliable (540FGZ fails on all these). The Sony flash is a 1/2 bake solution. The flash still needs a bracket if you want it sits above the lens in portrait orientation. I am sure, however, that it will work from marketing POV.

07-17-2008, 10:42 AM	#13
BrendanPK Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 735	I am simple, Keep the 540 design, add weather seals and faster recycling and an option for a 5th battery for even faster recycles

07-18-2008, 07:45 AM	#14
OniFactor Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Binghamton, NY, USA Posts: 643	Originally posted by wlachan Instead of going for something fancy, why not keep it compact, user friendly, fast to recycle, accurate and mechanically reliable (540FGZ fails on all these). The Sony flash is a 1/2 bake solution. The flash still needs a bracket if you want it sits above the lens in portrait orientation. I am sure, however, that it will work from marketing POV. honestly, 'good' brackets shouldn't even have the flash on the same vertical axis as the lens. that's how you get redeye. sure, the higher it is, the less it is, but still. move it 3 inches to the left, and wow, red eye's almost gone! and the sony achieve's this

07-18-2008, 08:49 AM	#15
melander Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden, Umea Posts: 876	How about you go to the page and look at all the pictures, you flip it and use it as a regular flash, and tilt it etc.

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