Smallest "Master" P-TTL flash for K1

GeneV · 12-02-2016, 07:55 PM

I am also in the camp of missing the pop up as a controller/fill. It is my favorite way to use PTTL. If I have enough space to carry multiple full sized flashes and time to set up, I'll carry radio triggers and use manual mode. The beauty of the small on-camera flash controlling a larger remote flash is that I just walk into a living room, set up the off camera flash out of the way in bounce mode and let the on camera flash control and fill. It is easy, quick and gives great results. As far as I know, there is no pocketable master for the K1.

BTW, I have a nice long cord but have never found it all that useful as a substitute. Some kid, dog or yours truly will end up tripping on it.

beholder3 · 12-02-2016, 11:56 PM

For exactly the scenario described above there is no lighter, smaller, cheaper, more flexible solution than a pair of Acons.
Put it on the cam and position the flash whereever you want, like behind the sofa bouncing off the ceiling.

Gerard_Dirks · 09-05-2017, 08:27 PM

I think the mecablitz 26 AF-2 could be an option. It supports TTL/P-TTL and Remote Slave for the Pentax and with the actual Firmware it is compatible with the K-1

Paul the Sunman · 09-05-2017, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Gerard_Dirks

I think the mecablitz 26 AF-2 could be an option. It supports TTL/P-TTL and Remote Slave for the Pentax and with the actual Firmware it is compatible with the K-1

But it can't be a master, which is what is actually required.

rawr · 09-06-2017, 01:47 AM

Have we discussed the Metz Mecablitz M400 flash?

It's compact, and does Master mode:
From the manual for Pentax:

Quote:

"In remote master mode the master flash unit on the camera controls all slave flash units and also contributes to exposure of the shot itself."

It also does HSS, and has a LED light for video too - seems a neat little unit.

Paul the Sunman · 09-06-2017, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Have we discussed the Metz Mecablitz M400 flash?

Yes, it's new. I just saw it a few days ago. It's specifically designed for compact mirrorless, so may well be the smallest workable option for the K-1. At 220 g (without batteries) it is somewhat lighter than the AF-360FGZ II (290 g).

bdery · 09-06-2017, 05:07 AM

Originally posted by rawr

Have we discussed the Metz Mecablitz M400 flash?

It's compact, and does Master mode:
From the manual for Pentax:

Quote:
"In remote master mode the master flash unit on the camera controls all slave flash units and also contributes to exposure of the shot itself."
It also does HSS, and has a LED light for video too - seems a neat little unit.

Seems very neat indeed. Somewhat expensive for what's needed however. A little less power, but mostly the same functions as the 52 AF-1 (excluding the video light) for close to the same price.

A 100$ unit with limited power and functionalities (no swivel, nothing fancy, just PTTL and wireless master) would be ideal.

rawr · 09-06-2017, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by bdery

A 100$ unit with limited power and functionalities (no swivel, nothing fancy, just PTTL and wireless master) would be ideal.

Seems a good idea. Maybe someone from Pentax, Metz, Yongnuo or Shanny will read this.

mcgregni · 09-06-2017, 08:42 AM

It sounds like people are wanting what Nikon and Canon offer ....an infrared commander unit that is dedicated to just controlling the slave flashes.

bdery · 09-07-2017, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by mcgregni

It sounds like people are wanting what Nikon and Canon offer ....an infrared commander unit that is dedicated to just controlling the slave flashes.

I'd rather have a small but real flash, so it can contribute to the exposure when needed.

**BruceBanner** · 10-22-2018, 04:38 AM - **1 Like**

I ended up with a AF201 and AF360FGZII last week. I used to own the AF540FGZII which I did not like (to large and heavy). Thus far I am really liking the 360ii, it's significantly smaller imo, next to my Cactus RF60x it's almost half the size! I don't think people quite fully understand how compact and light the 360ii is, it feels quite at home in the K-1 hotshoe.
I came close to the M400 as well, but I'm glad I got the 360II, more versatile than the M400 I feel.

bdery · 10-22-2018, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by BruceBanner

I'm glad I got the 360II

Almost the same thing here. I could hardly justify the cost of the 360 II for the occasional wireless PTTL, but I found a 360 v1 for a really low price (75$) so I went for it.

It seems to work well as a controller. As always coming from the Metz 52 AF-1 I find switching options with Pentax's flashes ridiculously convoluted (there are so many switches and buttons to press just to switch from wireless PTTL to optical slave manual that I cannot remember it). It does work, however, and it makes an inexpensive and reliable solution.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
K1: No aperture sensing for "legacy" lenses?	UliBär	Pentax Full Frame	116	04-07-2016 06:48 PM
"Nice Normal" lens for the K1...	bobbotron	Pentax K-1 & K-1 II	5	02-18-2016 03:24 PM
What does the "P" stand for in "SMCP-FA"	pmighetto	Pentax SLR Lens Discussion	2	08-27-2014 04:18 PM
Smallest P-TTL Flash	yusuf	Flashes, Lighting, and Studio	10	05-31-2011 09:48 PM
Is there a "best practices" guide to P-TTL?	bdery	Flashes, Lighting, and Studio	10	05-23-2011 07:32 AM

12-02-2016, 07:55 PM	#46
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	I am also in the camp of missing the pop up as a controller/fill. It is my favorite way to use PTTL. If I have enough space to carry multiple full sized flashes and time to set up, I'll carry radio triggers and use manual mode. The beauty of the small on-camera flash controlling a larger remote flash is that I just walk into a living room, set up the off camera flash out of the way in bounce mode and let the on camera flash control and fill. It is easy, quick and gives great results. As far as I know, there is no pocketable master for the K1. BTW, I have a nice long cord but have never found it all that useful as a substitute. Some kid, dog or yours truly will end up tripping on it.

12-02-2016, 11:56 PM	#47
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,094	For exactly the scenario described above there is no lighter, smaller, cheaper, more flexible solution than a pair of Acons. Put it on the cam and position the flash whereever you want, like behind the sofa bouncing off the ceiling.

09-05-2017, 08:27 PM	#48
Gerard_Dirks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: St. Gallen Posts: 149	I think the mecablitz 26 AF-2 could be an option. It supports TTL/P-TTL and Remote Slave for the Pentax and with the actual Firmware it is compatible with the K-1

09-05-2017, 08:35 PM	#49
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,384 Original Poster	Originally posted by Gerard_Dirks I think the mecablitz 26 AF-2 could be an option. It supports TTL/P-TTL and Remote Slave for the Pentax and with the actual Firmware it is compatible with the K-1 But it can't be a master, which is what is actually required.

09-06-2017, 01:47 AM	#50
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Have we discussed the Metz Mecablitz M400 flash? It's compact, and does Master mode: From the manual for Pentax: Quote: "In remote master mode the master flash unit on the camera controls all slave flash units and also contributes to exposure of the shot itself." It also does HSS, and has a LED light for video too - seems a neat little unit.

09-06-2017, 02:10 AM	#51
Paul the Sunman Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,384 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr Have we discussed the Metz Mecablitz M400 flash? Yes, it's new. I just saw it a few days ago. It's specifically designed for compact mirrorless, so may well be the smallest workable option for the K-1. At 220 g (without batteries) it is somewhat lighter than the AF-360FGZ II (290 g).

09-06-2017, 05:07 AM	#52
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,072	Originally posted by rawr Have we discussed the Metz Mecablitz M400 flash? It's compact, and does Master mode: From the manual for Pentax: Quote: "In remote master mode the master flash unit on the camera controls all slave flash units and also contributes to exposure of the shot itself." It also does HSS, and has a LED light for video too - seems a neat little unit. Seems very neat indeed. Somewhat expensive for what's needed however. A little less power, but mostly the same functions as the 52 AF-1 (excluding the video light) for close to the same price. A 100$ unit with limited power and functionalities (no swivel, nothing fancy, just PTTL and wireless master) would be ideal.

09-06-2017, 07:42 AM	#53
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by bdery A 100$ unit with limited power and functionalities (no swivel, nothing fancy, just PTTL and wireless master) would be ideal. Seems a good idea. Maybe someone from Pentax, Metz, Yongnuo or Shanny will read this.

09-06-2017, 08:42 AM	#54
mcgregni Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 2,603	It sounds like people are wanting what Nikon and Canon offer ....an infrared commander unit that is dedicated to just controlling the slave flashes.

09-07-2017, 05:02 AM	#55
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,072	Originally posted by mcgregni It sounds like people are wanting what Nikon and Canon offer ....an infrared commander unit that is dedicated to just controlling the slave flashes. I'd rather have a small but real flash, so it can contribute to the exposure when needed.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

10-22-2018, 04:38 AM - 1 Like	#56
BruceBanner Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 5,365	I ended up with a AF201 and AF360FGZII last week. I used to own the AF540FGZII which I did not like (to large and heavy). Thus far I am really liking the 360ii, it's significantly smaller imo, next to my Cactus RF60x it's almost half the size! I don't think people quite fully understand how compact and light the 360ii is, it feels quite at home in the K-1 hotshoe. I came close to the M400 as well, but I'm glad I got the 360II, more versatile than the M400 I feel.

10-22-2018, 04:58 AM	#57
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,072	Originally posted by BruceBanner I'm glad I got the 360II Almost the same thing here. I could hardly justify the cost of the 360 II for the occasional wireless PTTL, but I found a 360 v1 for a really low price (75$) so I went for it. It seems to work well as a controller. As always coming from the Metz 52 AF-1 I find switching options with Pentax's flashes ridiculously convoluted (there are so many switches and buttons to press just to switch from wireless PTTL to optical slave manual that I cannot remember it). It does work, however, and it makes an inexpensive and reliable solution.