Pentax HSS with Cactus V6ii and Godox Ving 850 Flash - Success

howieb101 · 11-16-2016, 05:29 PM - **1 Like**

Hi.

First, thanks to forum member fwbigd who posted using a very similar setup (https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/330535-hss-pentax-k-1-cact...ml#post3783865).

I just wanted to confirm to other forum members that it definitely works with the Godox Ving 850.

As per fwbigd here are the steps in a bit more detail:
1. Mount Cactus trigger in camera hotshoe
2. Mount Godox Ft-16 trigger on the Cactus trigger
3. Set sync mode to Normal HSS (on Cactus V6 II trigger)
4. Set Camera System: Pentax (on Cactus V6 II trigger)
5. Set Flash System: Nikon (on Cactus V6 II trigger)
6. Set HSS mode on the Godox Ving 850 (long press the 3rd button under the LCD)

The steps in images to help anyone else who may try this are at the bottom of the post.

Good luck and enjoy having HSS with superfast recharge times and wireless manual control (godox FT-16 trigger) of the flashes.

Cheers,
Howie Be

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mcgregni · 11-17-2016, 01:05 AM

Thanks! That's a great and clear description and the pictures are appreciated too. Good job getting that all workiing!

Some questions now .... I'm assuming that the Godox receiver is built in to the flash as you don't show it, but I'm thinking that it is the cactus units that are performing the actual triggering, not the Godox? The Godix is just giving you convenient remote power control?

If so, does that mean that the Gidox Tx does not actually need to be on the camera at all ....? Or am I missing some essential aspect here?

choong_dc · 11-17-2016, 05:04 AM

if you are interested in hooking up to the godoxAD600 beast (which may be 1200ws with a extension that mounts 2 bulb maybe), you might want to look at this...
Is V6 II working on HSS with Godox AD600 bm? - Cactus Community

fwbigd · 11-17-2016, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by mcgregni

f so, does that mean that the Gidox Tx does not actually need to be on the camera at all ....? Or am I missing some essential aspect here?

Think of it this way the Cactus V6ii is a translator between the Pentax camera and the Godox Trigger. The Godox trigger is sending the translated information to the Godox Receiver in the flash telling it when to fire.

---------- Post added 11-17-2016 at 09:07 AM ----------

Originally posted by choong_dc

if you are interested in hooking up to the godoxAD600 beast (which may be 1200ws with a extension that mounts 2 bulb maybe), you might want to look at this...
Is V6 II working on HSS with Godox AD600 bm? - Cactus Community

Thanks for the info.

mcgregni · 11-17-2016, 08:23 AM

Well, yes, that is the bit I'm struggling with, to be honest ....I can't see how two independent trigger systems can be both responsible for firing the flash at the same time? It was shown earlier that there is a Cactus RX unit set to 'Flash System - Nikon' .... So I thought that was triggering the flash? If so, what is the built-in Godox trigger doing?

I assume that with the Godox TX on top of the Cactus, as shown, that the Godox would be sending a trigger signal also? So then I thought maybe it wasn't actually needed and was just being used to control the power level ....

paulster · 11-17-2016, 10:32 AM

The Godox is doing the triggering. The Cactus is merely acting as a format translator and HSS enabler. Its trigger signal isn't getting received by anything. It's merely there to convince the Godox transmitter that it's mounted on a Nikon HSS-capable camera, so the Godox transmitter and flash can talk, and to make the camera think it has a Pentax system flash attached to enable HSS capability.

mcgregni · 11-17-2016, 10:52 AM

Thanks .... Ok, so I can see that at the transmitting end, that makes sense. But the OP listed a Cactus RX unit, set to the Nikon profile.... I'm confused by that. Is there a Cactus RX at the flash end or not? If there is, what is it doing?

---------- Post added 17-11-16 at 17:54 ----------

Or am I wrong with that? Looking again it looks like that's the same Cactus on the camera..... Maybe there's no Cactus RX.......

paulster · 11-17-2016, 01:06 PM

I don't think there's a Cactus Rx. I think he has the Tx set to Pentax camera and Nikon flash, because he has a Nikon-dedicated version of the Godox Tx.

That should be all that's required.

mcgregni · 11-17-2016, 01:26 PM

That sounds like it, thanks. I see that post on the other thread just come up recently, where the Godox flash has been triggered In HSS mode by the Cactus units without a Godox transmitter at all ..... It got me a bit confused ��!

howieb101 · 11-17-2016, 02:16 PM

Just to help clarify some other points that have been raised.

The Godox Ving 850 flash has a receiver (albeit you have to plug it in manually).

As to setting the flash system to Nikon. According to Class A that is a firmware bug. As such, using the firmware as is, it definitely is a bit of a red herring. In an ideal world this would also be set to Pentax.

As to the Godox Ving 850 flash itself, it is brand agnostic and fully manual. It is not Nikon dedicated (just so no one is confused by Paulster's comment, #8).

Cheers,
Howie Be

howieb101 · 11-17-2016, 02:35 PM

Also, to help reduce confusion, here is an image of the Godox Ving 850 flash showing the receiver.

Howie Be

mcgregni · 11-17-2016, 02:38 PM

Yes, I remember those discussions now, about the bug and the need for the Nikon profile. So, you actually set two profiles on the V6II.....a camera system AND a flash system? That's where I got lead astray and thought you were setting up an RX unit as well. On my V6 I think I only set one profile, to the camera system.

tkwock · 01-19-2017, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by howieb101

Hi.

First, thanks to forum member fwbigd who posted using a very similar setup (https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/190-pentax-k-1/330535-hss-pentax-k-1-cact...ml#post3783865).

I just wanted to confirm to other forum members that it definitely works with the Godox Ving 850.

As per fwbigd here are the steps in a bit more detail:
1. Mount Cactus trigger in camera hotshoe
2. Mount Godox Ft-16 trigger on the Cactus trigger
3. Set sync mode to Normal HSS (on Cactus V6 II trigger)
4. Set Camera System: Pentax (on Cactus V6 II trigger)
5. Set Flash System: Nikon (on Cactus V6 II trigger)
6. Set HSS mode on the Godox Ving 850 (long press the 3rd button under the LCD)

The steps in images to help anyone else who may try this are at the bottom of the post.

Good luck and enjoy having HSS with superfast recharge times and wireless manual control (godox FT-16 trigger) of the flashes.

Cheers,
Howie Be

I want to thank forum member fwbigd and howieb 101 for their post on HSS with Pentax. Using the Godox XT-16 you can use all the Flashpoint and Godox 2.4 strobes in manual mode HSS. This is another video on the process of HSS with Pentax.

You Tube

Thank you forum members!!!!

OhioAngie · 01-20-2017, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by tkwock

I want to thank forum member fwbigd and howieb 101 for their post on HSS with Pentax. Using the Godox XT-16 you can use all the Flashpoint and Godox 2.4 strobes in manual mode HSS. This is another video on the process of HSS with Pentax. Pentax HSS/Powersync/hypersync Tutorial With the K1 & Godox/Neewer/Flashpoint AD360 and Cactus V6ii - YouTube Thank you forum members!!!!

This is pretty exciting. Has anyone managed to recreate this set up with the new 2.4 GHZ equipment? The triggers are different of course.

Also, has anyone been able to do this with both AD360 and Godox speedlights in a 3 light (or more) set up?

**Ex Finn.** · 01-20-2017, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by OhioAngie

This is pretty exciting. Has anyone managed to recreate this set up with the new 2.4 GHZ equipment? The triggers are different of course.

Also, has anyone been able to do this with both AD360 and Godox speedlights in a 3 light (or more) set up?

OH Great. I thought my GAS had passed...

11-17-2016, 02:35 PM	#11
howieb101 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 594 Original Poster	Also, to help reduce confusion, here is an image of the Godox Ving 850 flash showing the receiver. Howie Be Attached Images

01-20-2017, 06:16 PM	#15
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by OhioAngie This is pretty exciting. Has anyone managed to recreate this set up with the new 2.4 GHZ equipment? The triggers are different of course. Also, has anyone been able to do this with both AD360 and Godox speedlights in a 3 light (or more) set up? OH Great. I thought my GAS had passed... Last edited by Ex Finn.; 01-20-2017 at 07:09 PM.

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11-17-2016, 01:05 AM	#2
mcgregni Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 2,603	Thanks! That's a great and clear description and the pictures are appreciated too. Good job getting that all workiing! Some questions now .... I'm assuming that the Godox receiver is built in to the flash as you don't show it, but I'm thinking that it is the cactus units that are performing the actual triggering, not the Godox? The Godix is just giving you convenient remote power control? If so, does that mean that the Gidox Tx does not actually need to be on the camera at all ....? Or am I missing some essential aspect here?

11-17-2016, 05:04 AM	#3
choong_dc Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 142	if you are interested in hooking up to the godoxAD600 beast (which may be 1200ws with a extension that mounts 2 bulb maybe), you might want to look at this... Is V6 II working on HSS with Godox AD600 bm? - Cactus Community

11-17-2016, 08:05 AM	#4
fwbigd Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 339	Originally posted by mcgregni f so, does that mean that the Gidox Tx does not actually need to be on the camera at all ....? Or am I missing some essential aspect here? Think of it this way the Cactus V6ii is a translator between the Pentax camera and the Godox Trigger. The Godox trigger is sending the translated information to the Godox Receiver in the flash telling it when to fire. ---------- Post added 11-17-2016 at 09:07 AM ---------- Originally posted by choong_dc if you are interested in hooking up to the godoxAD600 beast (which may be 1200ws with a extension that mounts 2 bulb maybe), you might want to look at this... Is V6 II working on HSS with Godox AD600 bm? - Cactus Community Thanks for the info.

11-17-2016, 08:23 AM	#5
mcgregni Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 2,603	Well, yes, that is the bit I'm struggling with, to be honest ....I can't see how two independent trigger systems can be both responsible for firing the flash at the same time? It was shown earlier that there is a Cactus RX unit set to 'Flash System - Nikon' .... So I thought that was triggering the flash? If so, what is the built-in Godox trigger doing? I assume that with the Godox TX on top of the Cactus, as shown, that the Godox would be sending a trigger signal also? So then I thought maybe it wasn't actually needed and was just being used to control the power level ....

11-17-2016, 10:32 AM	#6
paulster Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 159	The Godox is doing the triggering. The Cactus is merely acting as a format translator and HSS enabler. Its trigger signal isn't getting received by anything. It's merely there to convince the Godox transmitter that it's mounted on a Nikon HSS-capable camera, so the Godox transmitter and flash can talk, and to make the camera think it has a Pentax system flash attached to enable HSS capability.

11-17-2016, 10:52 AM	#7
mcgregni Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 2,603	Thanks .... Ok, so I can see that at the transmitting end, that makes sense. But the OP listed a Cactus RX unit, set to the Nikon profile.... I'm confused by that. Is there a Cactus RX at the flash end or not? If there is, what is it doing? ---------- Post added 17-11-16 at 17:54 ---------- Or am I wrong with that? Looking again it looks like that's the same Cactus on the camera..... Maybe there's no Cactus RX.......

11-17-2016, 01:06 PM	#8
paulster Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 159	I don't think there's a Cactus Rx. I think he has the Tx set to Pentax camera and Nikon flash, because he has a Nikon-dedicated version of the Godox Tx. That should be all that's required.

11-17-2016, 01:26 PM	#9
mcgregni Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 2,603	That sounds like it, thanks. I see that post on the other thread just come up recently, where the Godox flash has been triggered In HSS mode by the Cactus units without a Godox transmitter at all ..... It got me a bit confused ��!

11-17-2016, 02:16 PM	#10
howieb101 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 594 Original Poster	Just to help clarify some other points that have been raised. The Godox Ving 850 flash has a receiver (albeit you have to plug it in manually). As to setting the flash system to Nikon. According to Class A that is a firmware bug. As such, using the firmware as is, it definitely is a bit of a red herring. In an ideal world this would also be set to Pentax. As to the Godox Ving 850 flash itself, it is brand agnostic and fully manual. It is not Nikon dedicated (just so no one is confused by Paulster's comment, #8). Cheers, Howie Be

11-17-2016, 02:38 PM	#12
mcgregni Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 2,603	Yes, I remember those discussions now, about the bug and the need for the Nikon profile. So, you actually set two profiles on the V6II.....a camera system AND a flash system? That's where I got lead astray and thought you were setting up an RX unit as well. On my V6 I think I only set one profile, to the camera system.

01-20-2017, 09:16 AM	#14
OhioAngie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Originally posted by tkwock I want to thank forum member fwbigd and howieb 101 for their post on HSS with Pentax. Using the Godox XT-16 you can use all the Flashpoint and Godox 2.4 strobes in manual mode HSS. This is another video on the process of HSS with Pentax. Pentax HSS/Powersync/hypersync Tutorial With the K1 & Godox/Neewer/Flashpoint AD360 and Cactus V6ii - YouTube Thank you forum members!!!! This is pretty exciting. Has anyone managed to recreate this set up with the new 2.4 GHZ equipment? The triggers are different of course. Also, has anyone been able to do this with both AD360 and Godox speedlights in a 3 light (or more) set up?