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12-09-2016, 04:43 PM   #1
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Shanny SN600FGZ P-TTL HSS Flash for $120?

Anyone with any experience with this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSWTVE4/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1481260102&sr=8...s=Pentax+Flash
Shenzhen Shanny Photography Optical Equipment Co.,ltd
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Looks like a small Chinese company.

12-09-2016, 06:09 PM   #2
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Shanny are reasonaly well known.

Certainly worth keeping a watch on this unit. Specs are OK, design looks ugly but price/performance seems good:





The flash is also now available for purchase on Aliexpress (with the same shipping timeline and price as Amazon).

Hopefully soon Godox and Yongnuo will [finally] join the P-TTL party too.

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12-09-2016, 09:41 PM   #3
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It is an option of third party. but any wany the Pentax AF540FGZ is my faverate. good price and good look. pentax made.
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QuoteOriginally posted by andy888 Quote
It is an option of third party. but any wany the Pentax AF540FGZ is my faverate. good price and good look. pentax made.
Hey Andy, pls tell Acon to release a radio PTTL flash unit of their own soon. They have done much of the electronics work already with their trigger.

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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
Hey Andy, pls tell Acon to release a radio PTTL flash unit of their own soon. They have done much of the electronics work already with their trigger.
I have

2 pentax flashes.
1 metz flash.
1 acon r930 transmitter.
2 acon r930 receivers.
1 acon r930T

acon does the most perfect to work with pentax flash system. its R930 is terriifc radio trigger , it allow all functions of the pentax flash.

If acon make flash too. I believe it would be very nice flash.

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QuoteOriginally posted by andy888 Quote
I have
2 pentax flashes.
1 metz flash.
1 acon r930 transmitter.
2 acon r930 receivers.
1 acon r930T
We all seem to have a mixed bag of flash. I have a Pentax ring flash, some old and new Metz flashes, some Cactus triggers, an Acon R930 TX/RX pair, some Yongnuo flashes and triggers, a Godox RF flash, plus some old FM radio triggers in there.

I probably need to clean out my flash gear drawer.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
We all seem to have a mixed bag of flash. I have a Pentax ring flash, some old and new Metz flashes, some Cactus triggers, an Acon R930 TX/RX pair, some Yongnuo flashes and triggers, a Godox RF flash, plus some old FM radio triggers in there.

I probably need to clean out my flash gear drawer.
It depend. rawr.

How many times do you use more than 1 flash, and how many times do you use M mode of camera?
12-20-2016, 09:32 PM   #8
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About to give this a go. Seems cheap enough to risk it.


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It's great to hear you'll be joining the ranks of flash users now Richard! Your K30 has wireless capability via the built-in unit so you can get going with some off-camera work as well. The design of that Shanny unit looks very similar to the new Pentax models. If you find any variations in functioning from things I've described in my Guide it would be good to know.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mcgregni Quote
The design of that Shanny unit looks very similar to the new Pentax models.
Actually it's a copy of the Canon 600EX flash!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Unlocker Quote
Actually it's a copy of the Canon 600EX flash!
Impressive if true ... that's an industry worhorse with a matching price tag!

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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
Impressive if true ... that's an industry worhorse with a matching price tag!
It does seem to be a direct knock off of the Canon...right down to the guide number of 60 meters...but the buttons on the back are green instead of blue...
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Something important to note. .... This flash does not offer Wireless P-TTL automatic exposure (known in Pentax lingo as 'S1' optical mode). It offers optical wireless slave modes for Manual flash exposures only (via it's 'S1'/'S2' choices). These are like standard manual flash slave modes, with one ignoring pre-flashes.

There is wireless HSS available up to 1/8000th sec, again only with Manual flash power adjustments. For now it looks like this would have to he controlled directly on the flash itself, perhaps until they release their radio trigger accessories ..... ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by mcgregni Quote
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There is wireless HSS available up to 1/8000th sec, again only with Manual flash power adjustments. ?
So it offers high sync without P-TTL?

I may have to buy one!





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Just like a Cactus RF60 ..... the advantage the Cactus has for now is that you can remote control your power from the on-camera transmitter, and the Flash Head Zoom as well. Without the accessory radio system to go with this flash it appears that flash power will need to be controlled manually from the flash unit itself.


Now, I'm a proponent of automatic HSS, absolutely. As I've written many times here, the advantageous in workflow simplicity are significant IMO, particularly when working in dynamic conditions such as changing ambient light (ie your sun goes in and out behind clouds), you change the flash to subject distances, or you try out different diffusers. Every one of these adjustments requires a matching shutter speed adjustment with Manual HSS, in addition to every adjustment to Aperture or ISO. That's quite a bit of extra work ...... automatic P-TTL HSS avoids this, ands that's worth quite a lot I feel. But Pentax flashes are far more expensive!


New owners here will need to check the syncing of this flash to the control pre-flashes from their on-camera accessory flashes. The S2 mode will ignore pre-flashes, but the pre-flashes of accessory flashes are more complex in HSS mode, so this may need to be tested.

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QuoteOriginally posted by clackers Quote
So it offers high sync without P-TTL?

I may have to buy one!


I am assuming that the on-camera accessory flash used as trigger here will not be able to operate in Wireless mode .... ie it will only be able to function in standard P-TTL HSS mode with its light output contributing to the scene. So the light balancing aspects will need to be considered, unless the flash head is just turned towards the Shanny slave and the light is wasted. Dialling down to minimum flash compensation will minimise power wastage.


So if we're comparing this to the more expensive Pentax / Metz etc options, what is missing here is the ability to operate the on-camera flash in wireless 'control' mode (ie it only works as trigger signal, not to light the scene). The Shanny will not (I assume) be able to respond or sync to on-camera flashes in their 'wireless' mode. Also of course, for HSS work, it needs to be remembered that the built-in flashes cannot act as triggers, you need an additional HSS capable accessory flash unit.

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