Does P-TTL work AF-360FGZ and K1?

Dericali · 01-12-2018, 07:38 AM

I bought a second hand AF-360FGZ at a local camera store - the store owner told me it would only work in manual mode because its metering is meant for film cameras not digital. Is this correct?
I used the flash on my K1 in P, Av and Tv modes and it seemed to expose correctly on a bunch of frames, which was either luck or the storeman was wrong.

**UncleVanya** · 01-12-2018, 08:03 AM

If you got the 360 FGZ he is wrong. That unit should work with any Pentax DSLR...

PENTAX AF 360FGZ reviews - Pentax Camera Accessory Review Database

The older 330/400/500 FTZ series is difficult to use on newer Pentax bodies since they don't do PTTL.

**pentageek** · 01-12-2018, 08:06 AM

AF-360FGZ supports P-TTL, and communicates with Pentax DSLRs, including K-1. If you have zoom lens, try to change FL and you should hear zoom in the flash adjusting accordingly. On the other hand, 360FGZ does not support TTL (previous 'analog' standard).

swanlefitte · 01-12-2018, 08:19 AM

As said the fgz is pttl. The g stands for that. The old ftz is ttl the t stands for that. If a pentax flash has g in the name its pttl.

Dericali · 01-12-2018, 08:44 AM

Cool well that's good... I had thought it only had the manual function... I recently bought a cactus trigger and two RF60X flashes and have been using that, so it was in the drawer gathering dust.

I just received a Ricoh GR-II today and I understand I can use that to wirelessly trigger the AF360-FGZ as an off-camera flash.

Kameraten · 01-12-2018, 08:58 AM

And if you get another Cactus trigger you should be able to put the 360 on top of that and trigger it by radio too alongside your RF60s. More reliable than optical trigger, especially in daylight.

Dericali · 01-12-2018, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Kameraten

And if you get another Cactus trigger you should be able to put the 360 on top of that and trigger it by radio too alongside your RF60s. More reliable than optical trigger, especially in daylight.

You're right, and I would like a 3rd flash for my studio setup to eliminate shadows on the back wall. I might wait for a while, I think Cactus will launch the V7 this year... assuming compatibility and new features it could be a good upgrade and use my current V6II as a trigger. If not an improvement at least the V6II may drop in price.

pschlute · 01-12-2018, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by pentageek

AF-360FGZ supports P-TTL, and communicates with Pentax DSLRs, including K-1. If you have zoom lens, try to change FL and you should hear zoom in the flash adjusting accordingly. On the other hand, 360FGZ does not support TTL (previous 'analog' standard).

Really. i am pretty sure the v1 at least of the AF360 FGZ still supports TTL exposure for older cameras. I seem to remember using it my Pentax Z1 (film) and that model predates P-TTL

Edit: Just to avoid any confusion, the AF360 FGZ version I has both P-TTL and TTL capability when used with a camera that supports those modes. I believe the version II has only P-TTL capability, not TTL.

**pentageek** · 01-12-2018, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by pschlute

Really. i am pretty sure the v1 at least of the AF360 FGZ still supports TTL

Thanks for pointing this out. Accordingly to the manual following cameras are supported in TTL mode:
67II, 645N II, 645N, Z/PZ series, MZ/ZX series (except MZ-M/ZX-M), SFXN/SF1N, SFX/SF1, 645, Super A/Super Program, LX.

So to be precise I should have written that '360 FGZ works in TTL mode on many, but not all analogue cameras'.

C_Jones · 01-12-2018, 02:04 PM

I have 3 AF360FGZs. I was shooting with one on my K-1 the other day. It works fine.

01-12-2018, 07:38 AM	#1
Dericali Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Berlin Posts: 298	Does P-TTL work AF-360FGZ and K1? I bought a second hand AF-360FGZ at a local camera store - the store owner told me it would only work in manual mode because its metering is meant for film cameras not digital. Is this correct? I used the flash on my K1 in P, Av and Tv modes and it seemed to expose correctly on a bunch of frames, which was either luck or the storeman was wrong.

01-12-2018, 10:36 AM	#8
pschlute Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,202	Originally posted by pentageek AF-360FGZ supports P-TTL, and communicates with Pentax DSLRs, including K-1. If you have zoom lens, try to change FL and you should hear zoom in the flash adjusting accordingly. On the other hand, 360FGZ does not support TTL (previous 'analog' standard). Really. i am pretty sure the v1 at least of the AF360 FGZ still supports TTL exposure for older cameras. I seem to remember using it my Pentax Z1 (film) and that model predates P-TTL Edit: Just to avoid any confusion, the AF360 FGZ version I has both P-TTL and TTL capability when used with a camera that supports those modes. I believe the version II has only P-TTL capability, not TTL. Last edited by pschlute; 01-13-2018 at 06:10 AM.

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01-12-2018, 08:03 AM	#2
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,404	If you got the 360 FGZ he is wrong. That unit should work with any Pentax DSLR... PENTAX AF 360FGZ reviews - Pentax Camera Accessory Review Database The older 330/400/500 FTZ series is difficult to use on newer Pentax bodies since they don't do PTTL.

01-12-2018, 08:06 AM	#3
pentageek Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 420	AF-360FGZ supports P-TTL, and communicates with Pentax DSLRs, including K-1. If you have zoom lens, try to change FL and you should hear zoom in the flash adjusting accordingly. On the other hand, 360FGZ does not support TTL (previous 'analog' standard).

01-12-2018, 08:19 AM	#4
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	As said the fgz is pttl. The g stands for that. The old ftz is ttl the t stands for that. If a pentax flash has g in the name its pttl.

01-12-2018, 08:44 AM	#5
Dericali Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Berlin Posts: 298 Original Poster	Cool well that's good... I had thought it only had the manual function... I recently bought a cactus trigger and two RF60X flashes and have been using that, so it was in the drawer gathering dust. I just received a Ricoh GR-II today and I understand I can use that to wirelessly trigger the AF360-FGZ as an off-camera flash.

01-12-2018, 08:58 AM	#6
Kameraten Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 214	And if you get another Cactus trigger you should be able to put the 360 on top of that and trigger it by radio too alongside your RF60s. More reliable than optical trigger, especially in daylight.

01-12-2018, 10:12 AM	#7
Dericali Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Berlin Posts: 298 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kameraten And if you get another Cactus trigger you should be able to put the 360 on top of that and trigger it by radio too alongside your RF60s. More reliable than optical trigger, especially in daylight. You're right, and I would like a 3rd flash for my studio setup to eliminate shadows on the back wall. I might wait for a while, I think Cactus will launch the V7 this year... assuming compatibility and new features it could be a good upgrade and use my current V6II as a trigger. If not an improvement at least the V6II may drop in price.

01-12-2018, 11:25 AM	#9
pentageek Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 420	Originally posted by pschlute Really. i am pretty sure the v1 at least of the AF360 FGZ still supports TTL Thanks for pointing this out. Accordingly to the manual following cameras are supported in TTL mode: 67II, 645N II, 645N, Z/PZ series, MZ/ZX series (except MZ-M/ZX-M), SFXN/SF1N, SFX/SF1, 645, Super A/Super Program, LX. So to be precise I should have written that '360 FGZ works in TTL mode on many, but not all analogue cameras'.

01-12-2018, 02:04 PM	#10
C_Jones Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,088	I have 3 AF360FGZs. I was shooting with one on my K-1 the other day. It works fine.