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lewvanbommel · 06-16-2018, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

Its charged, no loose connection and set to manual? Should work. Are the 2 parts set to the same channel? Does it test fire or does it have a light to show its received a signal?

Yep. Receiver gets the test signal, but the flash won’t fire.

Connection is locked in, same channel, set to manual. Works on an old Vivitar manual flash, but not the shanny....

swanlefitte · 06-16-2018, 08:44 PM

Other than fresh batteries i got nothing more. Hope you solve it.

lewvanbommel · 06-16-2018, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

Other than fresh batteries i got nothing more. Hope you solve it.

Thanks. I’ll swap the batteries out in the flash just in case and give it another go.

The flash still fires from the hot shoe though...does that mean it wouldn’t be batteries or is it possible that if they’re low it won’t remote fire?

swanlefitte · 06-16-2018, 10:39 PM

It has happened to me. Test fires but won't trigger. Change batteries and works.

lewvanbommel · 06-17-2018, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by swanlefitte

It has happened to me. Test fires but won't trigger. Change batteries and works.

Changed batteries. Didn’t work.

**BigMackCam** · 06-17-2018, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by lewvanbommel

Changed batteries. Didn’t work.

Have you tried another flash unit on the receiver to ensure it's actually firing? I've had a faulty receiver before now, where it showed it was getting the trigger signal but didn't actually fire the flash...

lewvanbommel · 06-17-2018, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Have you tried another flash unit on the receiver to ensure it's actually firing? I've had a faulty receiver before now, where it showed it was getting the trigger signal but didn't actually fire the flash...

Yeah I have. It works on an old Vivitar flash unit but not the shanny. I’m thinking the shanny needs extra pins or something.

**BigMackCam** · 06-17-2018, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by lewvanbommel

Yeah I have. It works on an old Vivitar flash unit but not the shanny. I’m thinking the shanny needs extra pins or something.

It could be that the centre pin on the Shanny's mount isn't touching the contact on the receiver's hot-shoe. That could be for a couple of reasons... Either the pin isn't extending far enough out of the foot, or the pins on the foot aren't quite lined up with those on the receiver's hot-shoe.

Does the flash push all the way into the receiver's hot-shoe, or does it appear to overhang a bit at the rear? Is there a possibility that there's more material at the front of the Shanny's foot than with the Vivitar, preventing the Shanny's pins from lining up with the hot-shoe contacts?

lewvanbommel · 06-17-2018, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

It could be that the centre pin on the Shanny's mount isn't touching the contact on the receiver's hot-shoe. That could be for a couple of reasons... Either the pin isn't extending far enough out of the foot, or the pins on the foot aren't quite lined up with those on the receiver's hot-shoe.

Does the flash push all the way into the receiver's hot-shoe, or does it appear to overhang a bit at the rear? Is there a possibility that there's more material at the front of the Shanny's foot than with the Vivitar, preventing the Shanny's pins from lining up with the hot-shoe contacts?

Hmm I didn’t think of that. I’ll need to have a look. If that’s the case is there a way to fix it?

**BigMackCam** · 06-17-2018, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by lewvanbommel

Hmm I didn’t think of that. I’ll need to have a look. If that’s the case is there a way to fix it?

Only by removing material from either the receiver hot-shoe / surrounding case, or from the flash foot. Obviously it's preferable to remove material on the receiver if possible, since it's usually a less expensive item

rawr · 06-17-2018, 05:49 AM - **1 Like**

A few pictures of the Shanny hotshoe, and the troublesome triggers, would be handy at this point.

Not a Number · 06-17-2018, 07:41 AM - **1 Like**

I have that problem on my K1000 with either (I don't recall) my Vivitar 285 or Sunpak 422D. The foot on the flash is a little too long in front so the center pin doesn't make contact. I could shave down the foot but I relegated the K1000 to parts so I don't care. The flashes work fine on every other body or off camera cable I have so it's not worth my time to modify the foot.

lewvanbommel · 06-17-2018, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by rawr

A few pictures of the Shanny hotshoe, and the troublesome triggers, would be handy at this point.

I probably should have thought of this earlier haha. Will grab some today and pop them in here.

T Evergreen · 06-17-2018, 04:46 PM

Just a thought, if the pins aren't lining up, perhaps you can mount the flash backwards in the trigger shoe and that will bring the pins in alignment.

lewvanbommel · 06-17-2018, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by T Evergreen

Just a thought, if the pins aren't lining up, perhaps you can mount the flash backwards in the trigger shoe and that will bring the pins in alignment.

I didn’t even think of this.

06-17-2018, 01:18 AM	#21
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,702	Originally posted by lewvanbommel Changed batteries. Didn’t work. Have you tried another flash unit on the receiver to ensure it's actually firing? I've had a faulty receiver before now, where it showed it was getting the trigger signal but didn't actually fire the flash... Last edited by BigMackCam; 06-17-2018 at 01:24 AM.

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06-16-2018, 08:03 PM	#16
lewvanbommel Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by swanlefitte Its charged, no loose connection and set to manual? Should work. Are the 2 parts set to the same channel? Does it test fire or does it have a light to show its received a signal? Yep. Receiver gets the test signal, but the flash won’t fire. Connection is locked in, same channel, set to manual. Works on an old Vivitar manual flash, but not the shanny....

06-16-2018, 08:44 PM	#17
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Other than fresh batteries i got nothing more. Hope you solve it.

06-16-2018, 10:07 PM	#18
lewvanbommel Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by swanlefitte Other than fresh batteries i got nothing more. Hope you solve it. Thanks. I’ll swap the batteries out in the flash just in case and give it another go. The flash still fires from the hot shoe though...does that mean it wouldn’t be batteries or is it possible that if they’re low it won’t remote fire?

06-16-2018, 10:39 PM	#19
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	It has happened to me. Test fires but won't trigger. Change batteries and works.

06-17-2018, 12:21 AM	#20
lewvanbommel Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by swanlefitte It has happened to me. Test fires but won't trigger. Change batteries and works. Changed batteries. Didn’t work.

06-17-2018, 02:36 AM	#22
lewvanbommel Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam Have you tried another flash unit on the receiver to ensure it's actually firing? I've had a faulty receiver before now, where it showed it was getting the trigger signal but didn't actually fire the flash... Yeah I have. It works on an old Vivitar flash unit but not the shanny. I’m thinking the shanny needs extra pins or something.

06-17-2018, 03:20 AM	#23
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,702	Originally posted by lewvanbommel Yeah I have. It works on an old Vivitar flash unit but not the shanny. I’m thinking the shanny needs extra pins or something. It could be that the centre pin on the Shanny's mount isn't touching the contact on the receiver's hot-shoe. That could be for a couple of reasons... Either the pin isn't extending far enough out of the foot, or the pins on the foot aren't quite lined up with those on the receiver's hot-shoe. Does the flash push all the way into the receiver's hot-shoe, or does it appear to overhang a bit at the rear? Is there a possibility that there's more material at the front of the Shanny's foot than with the Vivitar, preventing the Shanny's pins from lining up with the hot-shoe contacts?

06-17-2018, 04:26 AM	#24
lewvanbommel Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam It could be that the centre pin on the Shanny's mount isn't touching the contact on the receiver's hot-shoe. That could be for a couple of reasons... Either the pin isn't extending far enough out of the foot, or the pins on the foot aren't quite lined up with those on the receiver's hot-shoe. Does the flash push all the way into the receiver's hot-shoe, or does it appear to overhang a bit at the rear? Is there a possibility that there's more material at the front of the Shanny's foot than with the Vivitar, preventing the Shanny's pins from lining up with the hot-shoe contacts? Hmm I didn’t think of that. I’ll need to have a look. If that’s the case is there a way to fix it?

06-17-2018, 05:18 AM	#25
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,702	Originally posted by lewvanbommel Hmm I didn’t think of that. I’ll need to have a look. If that’s the case is there a way to fix it? Only by removing material from either the receiver hot-shoe / surrounding case, or from the flash foot. Obviously it's preferable to remove material on the receiver if possible, since it's usually a less expensive item

06-17-2018, 05:49 AM - 1 Like	#26
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	A few pictures of the Shanny hotshoe, and the troublesome triggers, would be handy at this point.

06-17-2018, 07:41 AM - 1 Like	#27
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	I have that problem on my K1000 with either (I don't recall) my Vivitar 285 or Sunpak 422D. The foot on the flash is a little too long in front so the center pin doesn't make contact. I could shave down the foot but I relegated the K1000 to parts so I don't care. The flashes work fine on every other body or off camera cable I have so it's not worth my time to modify the foot.

06-17-2018, 03:28 PM	#28
lewvanbommel Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by rawr A few pictures of the Shanny hotshoe, and the troublesome triggers, would be handy at this point. I probably should have thought of this earlier haha. Will grab some today and pop them in here.

06-17-2018, 04:46 PM	#29
T Evergreen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 197	Just a thought, if the pins aren't lining up, perhaps you can mount the flash backwards in the trigger shoe and that will bring the pins in alignment.

06-17-2018, 05:05 PM	#30
lewvanbommel Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 50 Original Poster	Originally posted by T Evergreen Just a thought, if the pins aren't lining up, perhaps you can mount the flash backwards in the trigger shoe and that will bring the pins in alignment. I didn’t even think of this.

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