Xpro-P TTL Wireless Flash Trigger for Pentax

Class A · 09-11-2019, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by Kobie

From what I can see, the Fresnel Adapter/kit you posted is only for the AD200.

Correct.

Originally posted by Kobie

Will that kit even fit a different Flashpoint/Godox Flash?

No, the mounting mechanism is designed to fit the AD200 (Pro).

Originally posted by Kobie

The one I posted is an adapter to mount specifically to a speedlite/flash and you get all the modifiers available for the round head.

I didn't realise that, as it is advertised specifically for the AD200 ("eVOLV 200" with Adorama's branding).

I'm not super excited about such a simple rectangular->round adapter because there is no respective light reshaping (unless you use the dome). For most accessories such as gels, grids, etc. it doesn't matter whether the head is rectangular or round. The only real advantage I see for a round accessory is that the bounce scoop can easily rotate. When you are using an equivalent accessory on a rectangular head, adjusting is not quite as easy, unless the accessory adds a rotating mechanism.

**Kobie** · 09-11-2019, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Class A

Correct.

No, the mounting mechanism is designed to fit the AD200 (Pro).

I didn't realise that, as it is advertised specifically for the AD200 ("eVOLV 200" with Adorama's branding).

I'm not super excited about such a simple rectangular->round adapter because there is no respective light reshaping (unless you use the dome). For most accessories such as gels, grids, etc. it doesn't matter whether the head is rectangular or round. The only real advantage I see for a round accessory is that the bounce scoop can easily rotate. When you are using an equivalent accessory on a rectangular head, adjusting is not quite as easy, unless the accessory adds a rotating mechanism.

Not sure what you read but here's the text taken directly from the link...

***Take advantage of the Flashpoint S-R1 Adapter and AK-R1 Accessory Kit, which allows you to attach quickly and easily Flashpoint eVOLV 200 round head modifiers to your Flashpoint Zoom and Zoom Li-on speedlights. By mechanically clamping to your flash, the included Flashpoint S-R1 Accessory Adapter provides a round platform for instantly snapping on included magnetic modifiers. This gives you a fast change of light pattern between one scene to the next. Among the round head accessories shipping in the kit are a four-leaf barndoor, diffusion dome, a 30° honeycomb grid, a wide-angle diffuser, six color filters, two filter holders, a spot lightsnoot, and a requisite Bounce Scoop.

Flashpoint H200R Features
Flashpoint S-R1 Adapter, four-leaf barndoor, eleven modifiers, and two filter holders are included
Mates Flashpoint eVOLV200 round head modifiers with Flashpoint Zoom and Zoom Li-on speedlights
Requires additional mounting adapters for compatibility with Flashpoint Zoom Mini
Delivers fast change of light pattern between one scene to the next
Offers instant, snap on/snap off attachment
Allows stacking for combined effects***

Anyway, the original point was that this exists lol

BSULMON · 09-12-2019, 12:57 AM

For the ones who believes that the X2T-P (version for pentax) would never been commercialized, I have to observe today, on Amazon or on eBay, that it is now available.

morenjavi · 09-12-2019, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by Class A

What "SYNC feature" are you referring to?

Are you talking about HyperSync or the fact that the X2T can connect to a smartphone?
The latter option is really useful (and is provided by the Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII as well).
The Godox app could have much better usability -- I don't know why in this day and age user interfaces still need to be this suboptimal -- but it is very handy as it is already.

The XPro already supports a "DELAY" feature. Are you not able to replicate the V6II's delay feature with that?

Sorry 'Class A', my post can be a bit confusing, I was referring to the X2T-P DELAY (SYNC) feature, I wrote just 'SYNC' by mistake. That is, a feature that seems useful to get HyperSync working. The manual says about X2T-P DELAY: "set the firing delay in high-speed sync". And, to me, it only makes sense to get hypersync.
I agree that connecting to a smartphone is a nice plus for the X2T-P, other good reason to add this trigger to my usual setup.

What I don't find, is any DELAY setting on my XPro (firmware v1.1). Are you referring to the DELAY setting of the AD200, maybe ?

Regards.

Class A · 09-12-2019, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by morenjavi

That is, a feature that seems useful to get HyperSync working.

Yes, that's exactly what it's for.

Originally posted by morenjavi

What I don't find, is any DELAY setting on my XPro (firmware v1.1).

I'm very sorry, I could have sworn the regular XPro supported a delay as well. However, only the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mark II variant does. The latter is rather similar to the XPro but has more buttons and a few more tricks up its sleeves (like the delay feature and the same Bluetooth connection that is available on the X2T).

morenjavi · 09-12-2019, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Class A

I'm very sorry, I could have sworn the regular XPro supported a delay as well. However, only the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mark II variant does. The latter is rather similar to the XPro but has more buttons and a few more tricks up its sleeves (like the delay feature and the same Bluetooth connection that is available on the X2T).

Yes, the R2 Pro Mk II looks great, but shipping costs from Adorama to my country are higher that the cost of the flash, unfortunately. This is why the X2T seems a good alternative.
Regards.

morenjavi · 09-13-2019, 12:57 AM

Ordered

!

**Kobie** · 09-13-2019, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by jake14mw

So psyched for this! Ordered one. On the Godox site, it mentions camera bodies supported, and the K-5 is not listed. I hope that is not really an issue.

The list of compatible Cameras is a list of what they have physically tested with so they know 100% that it works. It doesn't mean other models won't work flawlessly. It just means they didn't have those camera bodies to test with.

morenjavi · 09-13-2019, 11:27 AM

I have a K-5 and I can confirm that the XProP works with this model. The only 'issue' is that, for P-TTL, I have to compesate -0.7 or so, but it's very easy to set on the trigger. I have to compensate anyway when I use other PTTL flashes with my K-5, so I think this is a problem with the K-5, not the trigger.

**Kobie** · 09-13-2019, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by morenjavi

Ordered

!

Nice! Just Ordered my X2T-P 1 min ago.

Class A · 10-07-2019, 03:32 AM

Comparing an older Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII with the recently added images for the Pentax version --

-- it becomes apparent that the "Flaspoint" branding has been moved from the back of the trigger (the side facing away from the camera) to the top of the trigger.

More importantly, the hot-shoe mounting system has been changed from a screw to a lock-lever approach. Nice!

morenjavi · 10-07-2019, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by Class A

More importantly, the hot-shoe mounting system has been changed from a screw to a lock-lever approach. Nice!

This is THE trigger!

**Hattifnatt** · 10-16-2019, 12:00 PM

I have some problems with the Xpro-P and the AD400 Pro:

1) flash exposure compensation just doesn't work in TTL mode; if I dial it up or down on the trigger (+1, -1 etc) nothing happens on the flash LCD, it just shows zero; when I try to set it manually using the flash dial, numbers change (only on the flash LCD) but the exposure is not affected; in manual mode, I can control the flash power from the trigger with no difficulties;

2) HSS button is acting in a similar fashion; if I enable it on both flash and trigger, it works; but I can't turn it on or off just using the trigger;

Anybody else having this problem? maybe I'm doing something wrong? should I just try a firmware update?

morenjavi · 10-16-2019, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Hattifnatt

1) flash exposure compensation just doesn't work in TTL mode; if I dial it up or down on the trigger (+1, -1 etc) nothing happens on the flash LCD, it just shows zero; when I try to set it manually using the flash dial, numbers change (only on the flash LCD) but the exposure is not affected; in manual mode, I can control the flash power from the trigger with no difficulties;

I don't have the AD400, but the AD200, but I can comment on this. When I change compensation on trigger, I don't see anything on the Flash LCD. The same if I change compensation on the flash. So I see this is normal. But exposure is affected. What camera mode are you using ? M, Av...

Originally posted by Hattifnatt

2) HSS button is acting in a similar fashion; if I enable it on both flash and trigger, it works; but I can't turn it on or off just using the trigger;

This is strange, I only need to set HSS on the trigger, setting on the flash have no effect at all.

Originally posted by Hattifnatt

Anybody else having this problem? maybe I'm doing something wrong? should I just try a firmware update?

If you don't have the last firmware, I should recommend to install it. Are your Xpro-P & AD400 new ? Do you have the last firmware with Pentax support for the AD400 ?

EDIT: I'm not sure, but I think the AD400(Pro) is quite modern flash that should have Pentax support out of the box, anyway the last firmware on Godox site is V1.2. Check if you have the last version.

**Hattifnatt** · 10-16-2019, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by morenjavi

I don't have the AD400, but the AD200, but I can comment on this. When I change compensation on trigger, I don't see anything on the Flash LCD. The same if I change compensation on the flash. So I see this is normal. But exposure is affected. What camera mode are you using ? M, Av...

I was using Av mode. Did some tests and I thought the exposure was not affected... maybe -1 was not enough to see a change and I should have tested with -3.

Originally posted by morenjavi

This is strange, I only need to set HSS on the trigger, setting on the flash have no effect at all.

I didn't try to see if it works if I only set it on the trigger. I set it active on both flash and trigger. Then I noticed when I disable it from trigger, the icon still stays active on flash.

Originally posted by morenjavi

If you don't have the last firmware, I should recommend to install it. Are your Xpro-P & AD400 new ? Do you have the last firmware with Pentax support for the AD400 ?EDIT: I'm not sure, but I think the AD400(Pro) is quite modern flash that should have Pentax support out of the box, anyway the last firmware on Godox site is V1.2. Check if you have the last version.

Yes they are new. I have just updated the firmware on both flash and trigger without bothering to see which version was before. Did some quick tests, same as before. But I didn't actually mount the trigger on the camera, I will test more tomorrow, maybe the exposure actually changes but the flash and trigger LCD's are not in sync.

10-07-2019, 03:32 AM	#251
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Flashpoint Developments Comparing an older Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII with the recently added images for the Pentax version -- -- it becomes apparent that the "Flaspoint" branding has been moved from the back of the trigger (the side facing away from the camera) to the top of the trigger. More importantly, the hot-shoe mounting system has been changed from a screw to a lock-lever approach. Nice!

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09-11-2019, 07:28 AM	#241
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Kobie From what I can see, the Fresnel Adapter/kit you posted is only for the AD200. Correct. Originally posted by Kobie Will that kit even fit a different Flashpoint/Godox Flash? No, the mounting mechanism is designed to fit the AD200 (Pro). Originally posted by Kobie The one I posted is an adapter to mount specifically to a speedlite/flash and you get all the modifiers available for the round head. I didn't realise that, as it is advertised specifically for the AD200 ("eVOLV 200" with Adorama's branding). I'm not super excited about such a simple rectangular->round adapter because there is no respective light reshaping (unless you use the dome). For most accessories such as gels, grids, etc. it doesn't matter whether the head is rectangular or round. The only real advantage I see for a round accessory is that the bounce scoop can easily rotate. When you are using an equivalent accessory on a rectangular head, adjusting is not quite as easy, unless the accessory adds a rotating mechanism.

09-11-2019, 03:47 PM	#242
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by Class A Correct. No, the mounting mechanism is designed to fit the AD200 (Pro). I didn't realise that, as it is advertised specifically for the AD200 ("eVOLV 200" with Adorama's branding). I'm not super excited about such a simple rectangular->round adapter because there is no respective light reshaping (unless you use the dome). For most accessories such as gels, grids, etc. it doesn't matter whether the head is rectangular or round. The only real advantage I see for a round accessory is that the bounce scoop can easily rotate. When you are using an equivalent accessory on a rectangular head, adjusting is not quite as easy, unless the accessory adds a rotating mechanism. Not sure what you read but here's the text taken directly from the link... *Take advantage of the Flashpoint S-R1 Adapter and AK-R1 Accessory Kit, which allows you to attach quickly and easily Flashpoint eVOLV 200 round head modifiers to your Flashpoint Zoom and Zoom Li-on speedlights. By mechanically clamping to your flash, the included Flashpoint S-R1 Accessory Adapter provides a round platform for instantly snapping on included magnetic modifiers. This gives you a fast change of light pattern between one scene to the next. Among the round head accessories shipping in the kit are a four-leaf barndoor, diffusion dome, a 30° honeycomb grid, a wide-angle diffuser, six color filters, two filter holders, a spot lightsnoot, and a requisite Bounce Scoop. Flashpoint H200R Features Flashpoint S-R1 Adapter, four-leaf barndoor, eleven modifiers, and two filter holders are included Mates Flashpoint eVOLV200 round head modifiers with Flashpoint Zoom and Zoom Li-on speedlights Requires additional mounting adapters for compatibility with Flashpoint Zoom Mini Delivers fast change of light pattern between one scene to the next Offers instant, snap on/snap off attachment Allows stacking for combined effects* Anyway, the original point was that this exists lol

09-12-2019, 12:57 AM	#243
BSULMON Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 37	For the ones who believes that the X2T-P (version for pentax) would never been commercialized, I have to observe today, on Amazon or on eBay, that it is now available.

09-12-2019, 01:24 AM	#244
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Originally posted by Class A What "SYNC feature" are you referring to? Are you talking about HyperSync or the fact that the X2T can connect to a smartphone? The latter option is really useful (and is provided by the Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII as well). The Godox app could have much better usability -- I don't know why in this day and age user interfaces still need to be this suboptimal -- but it is very handy as it is already. The XPro already supports a "DELAY" feature. Are you not able to replicate the V6II's delay feature with that? Sorry 'Class A', my post can be a bit confusing, I was referring to the X2T-P DELAY (SYNC) feature, I wrote just 'SYNC' by mistake. That is, a feature that seems useful to get HyperSync working. The manual says about X2T-P DELAY: "set the firing delay in high-speed sync". And, to me, it only makes sense to get hypersync. I agree that connecting to a smartphone is a nice plus for the X2T-P, other good reason to add this trigger to my usual setup. What I don't find, is any DELAY setting on my XPro (firmware v1.1). Are you referring to the DELAY setting of the AD200, maybe ? Regards.

09-12-2019, 11:28 AM	#245
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by morenjavi That is, a feature that seems useful to get HyperSync working. Yes, that's exactly what it's for. Originally posted by morenjavi What I don't find, is any DELAY setting on my XPro (firmware v1.1). I'm very sorry, I could have sworn the regular XPro supported a delay as well. However, only the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mark II variant does. The latter is rather similar to the XPro but has more buttons and a few more tricks up its sleeves (like the delay feature and the same Bluetooth connection that is available on the X2T).

09-12-2019, 12:12 PM	#246
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Originally posted by Class A I'm very sorry, I could have sworn the regular XPro supported a delay as well. However, only the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mark II variant does. The latter is rather similar to the XPro but has more buttons and a few more tricks up its sleeves (like the delay feature and the same Bluetooth connection that is available on the X2T). Yes, the R2 Pro Mk II looks great, but shipping costs from Adorama to my country are higher that the cost of the flash, unfortunately. This is why the X2T seems a good alternative. Regards.

09-13-2019, 12:57 AM	#247
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Ordered !

09-13-2019, 06:34 AM	#248
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by jake14mw So psyched for this! Ordered one. On the Godox site, it mentions camera bodies supported, and the K-5 is not listed. I hope that is not really an issue. The list of compatible Cameras is a list of what they have physically tested with so they know 100% that it works. It doesn't mean other models won't work flawlessly. It just means they didn't have those camera bodies to test with.

09-13-2019, 11:27 AM	#249
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	I have a K-5 and I can confirm that the XProP works with this model. The only 'issue' is that, for P-TTL, I have to compesate -0.7 or so, but it's very easy to set on the trigger. I have to compensate anyway when I use other PTTL flashes with my K-5, so I think this is a problem with the K-5, not the trigger.

09-13-2019, 06:50 PM	#250
Kobie Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bowmanville Photos: Albums Posts: 1,211	Originally posted by morenjavi Ordered ! Nice! Just Ordered my X2T-P 1 min ago.

10-07-2019, 04:08 AM	#252
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Originally posted by Class A More importantly, the hot-shoe mounting system has been changed from a screw to a lock-lever approach. Nice! This is THE trigger!

10-16-2019, 12:00 PM	#253
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,625	I have some problems with the Xpro-P and the AD400 Pro: 1) flash exposure compensation just doesn't work in TTL mode; if I dial it up or down on the trigger (+1, -1 etc) nothing happens on the flash LCD, it just shows zero; when I try to set it manually using the flash dial, numbers change (only on the flash LCD) but the exposure is not affected; in manual mode, I can control the flash power from the trigger with no difficulties; 2) HSS button is acting in a similar fashion; if I enable it on both flash and trigger, it works; but I can't turn it on or off just using the trigger; Anybody else having this problem? maybe I'm doing something wrong? should I just try a firmware update?

10-16-2019, 12:11 PM	#254
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Originally posted by Hattifnatt 1) flash exposure compensation just doesn't work in TTL mode; if I dial it up or down on the trigger (+1, -1 etc) nothing happens on the flash LCD, it just shows zero; when I try to set it manually using the flash dial, numbers change (only on the flash LCD) but the exposure is not affected; in manual mode, I can control the flash power from the trigger with no difficulties; I don't have the AD400, but the AD200, but I can comment on this. When I change compensation on trigger, I don't see anything on the Flash LCD. The same if I change compensation on the flash. So I see this is normal. But exposure is affected. What camera mode are you using ? M, Av... Originally posted by Hattifnatt 2) HSS button is acting in a similar fashion; if I enable it on both flash and trigger, it works; but I can't turn it on or off just using the trigger; This is strange, I only need to set HSS on the trigger, setting on the flash have no effect at all. Originally posted by Hattifnatt Anybody else having this problem? maybe I'm doing something wrong? should I just try a firmware update? If you don't have the last firmware, I should recommend to install it. Are your Xpro-P & AD400 new ? Do you have the last firmware with Pentax support for the AD400 ? EDIT: I'm not sure, but I think the AD400(Pro) is quite modern flash that should have Pentax support out of the box, anyway the last firmware on Godox site is V1.2. Check if you have the last version.

10-16-2019, 01:12 PM	#255
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,625	Originally posted by morenjavi I don't have the AD400, but the AD200, but I can comment on this. When I change compensation on trigger, I don't see anything on the Flash LCD. The same if I change compensation on the flash. So I see this is normal. But exposure is affected. What camera mode are you using ? M, Av... I was using Av mode. Did some tests and I thought the exposure was not affected... maybe -1 was not enough to see a change and I should have tested with -3. Originally posted by morenjavi This is strange, I only need to set HSS on the trigger, setting on the flash have no effect at all. I didn't try to see if it works if I only set it on the trigger. I set it active on both flash and trigger. Then I noticed when I disable it from trigger, the icon still stays active on flash. Originally posted by morenjavi If you don't have the last firmware, I should recommend to install it. Are your Xpro-P & AD400 new ? Do you have the last firmware with Pentax support for the AD400 ?EDIT: I'm not sure, but I think the AD400(Pro) is quite modern flash that should have Pentax support out of the box, anyway the last firmware on Godox site is V1.2. Check if you have the last version. Yes they are new. I have just updated the firmware on both flash and trigger without bothering to see which version was before. Did some quick tests, same as before. But I didn't actually mount the trigger on the camera, I will test more tomorrow, maybe the exposure actually changes but the flash and trigger LCD's are not in sync.