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11-19-2018, 05:45 PM   #46
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Often in the field, on a walk, a softbox and off-camera flash might not be practical. In that situation, I've had good results with on-camera flash and cheap folding diffuser like this: Flash Speedlite Diffuser Reflector for DSLR Camera White 30cm w/ Bag Softbox | eBay Very lightweight, folds to pocket size, can also be used as a reflector. Having the diffuser near the front element of the lens can mean it's fairly close to the subject, and that there's a reasonable space between flash and diffuser. Works whether the camera is in horizontal or vertical orientation (although it can be a little awkward to hold in place with the left hand in the latter situation if hand-holding the camera).

K-3 + DA 20-40 Ltd. 40mm, f8, 1/100th, 100 ISO.

This was in patchy light (sun and shade), so the flash helped make it more even. I could have exposed for the background (in deepish shade), but it would have been 2-3 stops adjustment (maybe 400-800 ISO instead of 100). And I wanted the subject to stand out.

There was more light on the flowers in the background in this one. Again the flash smoothed some of the unevenness of the light on the flowers in the foreground. K-3 and DA 20-40, 20mm, f5, 1/250th, 100 ISO.



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Interesting examples of a good techniques there Des, thanks. Yes, it's still direct front on flash, but the spread is gentler and softer. Often it's about getting the best you can with what's practical and to hand.
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Interesting examples of a good techniques there Des, thanks. Yes, it's still direct front on flash, but the spread is gentler and softer. Often it's about getting the best you can with what's practical and to hand.
Thanks Nigel. I'm thinking about getting a mini-softbox or something like the fstoppers disc so that in field use like this I can use the flash off-camera with diffusion. You guys have persuaded me. Round or square?

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Thanks Nigel. I'm thinking about getting a mini-softbox or something like the fstoppers disc so that in field use like this I can use the flash off-camera with diffusion. You guys have persuaded me. Round or square?
Won't matter, Des. The round or square shape is just to change what the catchlights look line in someone's eyes.

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Thanks Nigel. I'm thinking about getting a mini-softbox or something like the fstoppers disc so that in field use like this I can use the flash off-camera with diffusion. You guys have persuaded me. Round or square?
If I could only have one for outdoor flowers, plants fungus, etc, it would be square or rectangular. When things are low to the ground, a round shape can't get as large an area close to the ground as one with a flat side can.

If it's a question of the shape of specular highlights (think water droplets on flowers), it's really personal preference. I usually pack a square diffuser that attaches to a flash but also a round 5-in-1 reflector so I can go back and forth. Neither really looks natural if the highlight is well defined and you haven't done something to obscure it.
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Clackers and Brian, thanks for your comments. I think I'll go for a square or rectangular one for the reason Brian mentioned - plus the ability to sit it on the ground, like a scaled-down version of the softbox in Nigel's first post.

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It's a practical shape, true, plus the flat wide edge and the "lip" protects the white diffuse material as well as padding down grass or twigs and leaves. I just prop the flash onto my backpack on the ground to stabilize it and get the angle right.

Bear in mind that smaller boxes will need more extreme angling to direct the light....my one tends to fill a wide area, so less precision is needed, plus its guaranteed soft light.
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Going along with Nigel here (Not for the first time...lol ) and going to give my vote to the square 60 x 60 box.. The only amendment I would add. Looking at his picure. Is he obviously got his, like me in the earlier day's when they were supplied with a different bracket. This bracket can tilt 90 degrees. Not sure you need on a square box. But they are now supplied with the Godox "S" bracket. Which cant tilt but is a lot more versatile and can accept other modifiers with its "Bowens or Elinchron mount" or an umbrella. Or multi flash accesory should 1 flash not be powerful enough.. Though I suspect that wouldn't be needed..

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