Originally posted by dreamline.digi
I am looking to get into some strobist photography i.e. off-camera flash. I have been using backdrop stand and the flash is not working.
I shoot exclusively with a Canon 5D Mark II and 24-70mm F2.8L and I typically shoot automotive and portrait subjects.
Um. You do know this is a Pentax board, right?
The Canon Strobists congregate more over on POTN.
Quote: Do we have any other budding strobist photographers on here? If yes, what type of gear would you recommend?
Godox. Particularly for Canon shooters, since I suspect the Godox X system was reverse engineered off Canon RT gear. I moved from Yongnuo YN-622 gear to Godox gear when I added Panasonic mirrorless cameras to my Canon dSLR gear.
Quote: Thinking of investing in some Yongnuo flashes and receivers/transmitters but for some reason most of the listings I've seen for the receivers/transmitters do not have the 5D Mark II as a compatible body. Can anyone comment on this?
It's because the 5Dii is a pre-2012 body [before the 600EX-RT came out]. The Canon wireless flash communication protocol added a lot of features for the RT system (Groups D&E, Gr mode etc.) and the 5Dii can't actually communicate any of that by itself. Until the XPro-C came out as a transmitter, you did not have access to those features with a 5Dii. If you're looking at XT16, XT32, or X1T listings that's why the 5Dii isn't on the compatibility list.
I use a 5Dii with an Xpro-C transmitter, and it works fine.
There were similar issues with the Yongnuo YN-622C transceivers and the 5Dii wasn't compatible with group/M power control until the YN-622C-TX came out.
Personally, I say go for Godox gear, not Yongnuo for the following reasons:
Godox's 2.4 GHz X system is unified. All the 2.4 GHz radio gear Godox makes for strobes (aside from the FC16 triggers) are in this system. It integrates manual and TTL speedlights, AC-powered manual monolight, and the li-ion battery-powered TTL/HSS AD Witstro strobes. The system supports TTL/HSS for Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Olympus/Panasonic, and Pentax. And that support works (mostly) cross-brand.
Yongnuo is failing at integrating their three? four? different mostly-incompatible triggerings systems. If you add in the manual YN-560 speedlights, you lose TTL/HSS compatibility with the TTL ones. Only the latest newest models are integrated, and the only systems supported are Canon, Nikon, and Sony, and cross-brand signalling doesn't necessarily work for all of it. Yongnuo also makes only one model light in their YN-560-TX Pro system that's bigger than a speedlight: the YN200, which is a cheaper copy of the Godox AD200, only with a fixed barebulb head, not an interchangeable head.
Finding what's compatible with what with Yongnuo gear can be insanely difficult. They have a YN-560/60x manual triggering system, a 622 TTL/HSS system, a Canon RT clone system, and now a Sony TTL/HSS system. And it's not necessarily self-evident which speedlight models are in which systems (aside from the RT ones that always have RT in their name).
In addition, Godox gear is often rebranded by more reputable retailers so they can tell who bought it from them, and offer customer/warranty support (e.g., Adorama's Flashpoint R2 gear is Godox's X system).
So, just me? If you're not a pro, consider getting the TT685 II-C ($130). It's a TTL/HSS full-sized speedlight for Canon. It also has a built-in radio transceiver. If you've never used a flash before, put aside plans for going Strobist, and master
on-camera bounce flash first. It's a lot easier to grasp the basics of flash metering, flash exposure, and flash/ambient balance, as well as basic control over the intensity, direction, quality and (with gels) the color of the light if all you have to buy and master at first is a speedlight, a black sheet of black craft foam and a rubber band, and some gels. David Hobby assumed everybody had already hit the limits of on-camera bounce flash before finding the Strobist. He's also not going to teach you on-camera flash. TTL, or bounce technique. Neil van Niekerk will.
THEN you get a lighstand, a bracket or umbrella swivel, an XPro-C or Flashpoint R2 Pro II-C or transmitter, and a softbox or umbrella, and you start with a one-light Strobist setup. Hold off on proliferating lights/stands/modifiers until you can previsualize what this combination is going to do before you do it. Get enough sense of how this all works so that by the time you do want a second light, you'll know if you need bigger guns than speedlights or not, because that can have a knock on effect on the size/weight/cost of your stands and modifiers, too.
Good luck. Welcome to a brighter world!