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ecostigny · 12-30-2019, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Fluegel

I used a lightweight stand that reaches close to the ceiling., Metz unit on top of the stand. The ceiling must be white, walls preferably too.
Trigger the Metz with a low output setting of the built in flash or use a radio controlled trigger. Bounced light is not only softer, it bothers subjects like family less.
That gives you flexibility without carrying the weight of the Metz unit with you.

I've seen this technique used at weddings to help illuminate a room in a relatively unobtrusive way. Great suggestion!

wowtip · 12-31-2019, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

This is where another pitch for the Pentax AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ comes in.

...

Steve

Does the AF360FGZII have the auto thyristor mode? I thought only 540 had that mode?

---------- Post added 2019-12-31 at 12:27 ----------

Thanks for all suggestions, will read more thoroughly and ponder a bit

stevebrot · 12-31-2019, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by wowtip

Does the AF360FGZII have the auto thyristor mode?

No, though the AF360FGZ (no II) and AF540FGZ (no II) both do. The version II models both dropped the feature.

Steve

wowtip · 01-05-2020, 12:24 PM

I read in old posts there are some problems with bounce exposure with recent Metz flashes. Has this been fixed in firmware for 52/64?

ecostigny · 01-05-2020, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by wowtip

I read in old posts there are some problems with bounce exposure with recent Metz flashes. Has this been fixed in firmware for 52/64?

My Metz 58 AF-2 and my wife's K-x never did work well when I tried bounce exposures with them. With my K-5, the pairing worked much better.

Fluegel · 01-05-2020, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by wowtip

I read in old posts there are some problems with bounce exposure with recent Metz flashes. Has this been fixed in firmware for 52/64?

Did not experience any trouble bouncing my Metz 54 AF.
Replaced the Metz though for a Elinchrome 600 Ws mono block.
Output set at 3/4, gives me nice isolated items at F20.

Fluegel · 01-06-2020, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by ecostigny

I've seen this technique used at weddings to help illuminate a room in a relatively unobtrusive way. Great suggestion!

What a disappointment

Tears in my eyes, always thought I was the only genius who thought of that.

I use the same technique in the little room I call my studio.
Soft light without the need to use softboxes for which there is no room anyway.

Once you get used to a fixed flash set up you can concentrate on the images without being bothered with lighting.
I use a cheap Chinese made radio trigger, sheer pleasure to shoot items I am selling.

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12-30-2019, 08:22 PM	#16
ecostigny Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Branford, CT Posts: 561	Originally posted by Fluegel I used a lightweight stand that reaches close to the ceiling., Metz unit on top of the stand. The ceiling must be white, walls preferably too. Trigger the Metz with a low output setting of the built in flash or use a radio controlled trigger. Bounced light is not only softer, it bothers subjects like family less. That gives you flexibility without carrying the weight of the Metz unit with you. I've seen this technique used at weddings to help illuminate a room in a relatively unobtrusive way. Great suggestion!

12-31-2019, 04:25 AM	#17
wowtip Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West coast Photos: Gallery Posts: 261 Original Poster	Originally posted by stevebrot This is where another pitch for the Pentax AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ comes in. ... Steve Does the AF360FGZII have the auto thyristor mode? I thought only 540 had that mode? ---------- Post added 2019-12-31 at 12:27 ---------- Thanks for all suggestions, will read more thoroughly and ponder a bit

12-31-2019, 08:52 AM	#18
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by wowtip Does the AF360FGZII have the auto thyristor mode? No, though the AF360FGZ (no II) and AF540FGZ (no II) both do. The version II models both dropped the feature. Steve

01-05-2020, 12:24 PM	#19
wowtip Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West coast Photos: Gallery Posts: 261 Original Poster	I read in old posts there are some problems with bounce exposure with recent Metz flashes. Has this been fixed in firmware for 52/64?

01-05-2020, 02:33 PM	#20
ecostigny Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Branford, CT Posts: 561	Originally posted by wowtip I read in old posts there are some problems with bounce exposure with recent Metz flashes. Has this been fixed in firmware for 52/64? My Metz 58 AF-2 and my wife's K-x never did work well when I tried bounce exposures with them. With my K-5, the pairing worked much better.

01-05-2020, 05:22 PM	#21
Fluegel Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 470	Originally posted by wowtip I read in old posts there are some problems with bounce exposure with recent Metz flashes. Has this been fixed in firmware for 52/64? Did not experience any trouble bouncing my Metz 54 AF. Replaced the Metz though for a Elinchrome 600 Ws mono block. Output set at 3/4, gives me nice isolated items at F20.

01-06-2020, 10:28 AM	#22
Fluegel Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 470	Originally posted by ecostigny I've seen this technique used at weddings to help illuminate a room in a relatively unobtrusive way. Great suggestion! What a disappointment Tears in my eyes, always thought I was the only genius who thought of that. I use the same technique in the little room I call my studio. Soft light without the need to use softboxes for which there is no room anyway. Once you get used to a fixed flash set up you can concentrate on the images without being bothered with lighting. I use a cheap Chinese made radio trigger, sheer pleasure to shoot items I am selling.

Metz 52 or 64 for Pentax K30 (& K20D)

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